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No one religion can be correct
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Hello, ImAj.
You've made a whole bunch of assumptions that simply aren't true and a few that are. But I've explained my religion's perspective on this subject so many times during the past month, that I'm sure that, to most of the people on this forum, I'm beginning to sound like a broken record. But, in a very tiny nutshell (since you haven't been around to listen to me ramble), I believe that (1)Jesus Christ is the only way by which mankind can be saved, (2) the meaning of the word "salvation" is a little bit more complex than most Christians want to make it, and (3) those who died without having the opportunity to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ will have that opportunity before the Final Judgment.
If you have any specific questions about how those three statements tie together, just ask. Otherwise, I'll assume you aren't interested. And I don't want to bore everybody else with the same old story again.
You've made a whole bunch of assumptions that simply aren't true and a few that are. But I've explained my religion's perspective on this subject so many times during the past month, that I'm sure that, to most of the people on this forum, I'm beginning to sound like a broken record. But, in a very tiny nutshell (since you haven't been around to listen to me ramble), I believe that (1)Jesus Christ is the only way by which mankind can be saved, (2) the meaning of the word "salvation" is a little bit more complex than most Christians want to make it, and (3) those who died without having the opportunity to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ will have that opportunity before the Final Judgment.
If you have any specific questions about how those three statements tie together, just ask. Otherwise, I'll assume you aren't interested. And I don't want to bore everybody else with the same old story again.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
"Mashiach" literally means "anointed one." As this title is applied to Jesus Christ, it is used in the same sense in which the ancient Israelites would have used it, in designating their prophets, priests and kings as rightful successors. Since the Israelites were awaiting the coming of this anointed prophet, priest and king, he was to be a "messiah."Binyamin said:
Deut 13:1
Well-Known Member
What do you think Orthodox Judaism is? If you go to a Orthodox Shul looking to convert they will advise you against it, but if you really want to, they will help you. Although they won't convert you for a very very long time. Most won't do it without an intense year of study. It's something that we encourage reformed and conservative Jews to do (not convert, just become more observant) but non-Jews we actually suggest that it's not for them.Jensa said:
Jews are not in it for the numbers, never have been, never will be.
May I respectfully ask what they are in it for?Binyamin said:What do you think Orthodox Judaism is? If you go to a Orthodox Shul looking to convert they will advise you against it, but if you really want to, they will help you. Although they won't convert you for a very very long time. Most won't do it without an intense year of study. It's something that we encourage reformed and conservative Jews to do (not convert, just become more observant) but non-Jews we actually suggest that it's not for them.
Jews are not in it for the numbers, never have been, never will be.
These 'quotes' from Jesus were written down many generations after Christ was gone, by people living hundreds of miles from where the ministry took place. Who knows what was said and what was embelished in the hundreds verbal transmissions of all of these stories.blueman said:Michel, it is a slippery slope to speak for God Almighty. I agree with you that God is a loving and merciful God, but He is also just. Jesus stated that I am the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. That does not sound like an ambiguous statement to me. Jesus makes it clear that all judgement has been given to Him by the Father and all will be judged, both saved and unsaved one day (John 5:22-28). We either have to take him at His word or not believe Him at all. Unfortunately, there is not in between. God is the same yesterday, today and forever more.
I wonder why Constantine found it necessary to make it a crime for Jews to proselytize back in 315. There is also ...Binyamin said:
Sometimes it's helpful to supplement the study of Torah with the study of history.
EnhancedSpirit
High Priestess
I agree that no religion is 100% correct. Each has been tainted by humans. And God is WAY too big for any one religion.
EnhancedSpirit
High Priestess
I would say that logic is the worst way to examine faith. Our minds are limited by our earth experience. Logic lies with the material world. The truth about God goes far beyond what we know as logical.The Truth said:
I'm sure that you didn't consider it at all.Binyamin said:
EnhancedSpirit
High Priestess
With your heart. The truth lies in emotion. Sins are based on things that cause negative emotions in yourself or others. God is 'pleased' with things that cause positive emotions in yourself or others.Darkdale said:
If you cheated on your spouse, you being cheated on may not be what balances your Karma. God will make sure some where down the road, that something happens that makes you FEEL the same way you made your spouse feel, you may end up being betrayed by a friend, or your child, it will come back to you with perfect accuracy, but it is about the feeling, not the act itself. It's not how the world treats you that matters, it's how you react that counts. If you react out of love you are in synch with God's will, if you react out of hate, or fear, you are out of synch.
The simple truth is that God is Love. And sin is bases on fear and hate. Follow your heart. Edison followed his heart, that passion that told him to keep trying no matter what. His head might have told him that it was ridiculous to keep trying, he should not be wasting his time on those pipe dreams. Same with the Wright broth's, and Henry Ford.