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Polyamory. What exactly are you afraid of?

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Do you feel that open Polyamory is a threat to something?

It probably is. It does not follow that such a something is worth keeping, however.


Do you feel it should be "hidden" from the children?

Not really. I've grown quite weary of the insistence of some people in taking pains to keep children unaware of how things actually work in real life.


Is it something you feel will somehow hurt society?

To an extent. But again, hypocrisy hurts society far worse, so it is probably worth it.


Will it destroy the family unit?

For some definitions of family and unity, it well might. Again, I don't see how that it would be a bad thing, either. Some understandings of "family unit" come straight from hell.


Will it give some "kinds" of families an unfair economic advantage?

I beg your pardon? I didn't know that families were ever meant to avoid unfair economic advantages. How would that work?


Putting aside ALL RELIGIOUS issues...
What is it exactly, that governments and people are afraid of regarding Polyamory?

Seems to me that it is mainly that they would jeopardize many traditional, albeit fairly meaningless, references for social roles.

Many people are pretty much enslaved to a tradition of choosing such roles with no regard for actual vocations and feelings. Polyamory is a direct threat for those silly, hollow traditions.


I just don't get it.

Blessed be.
 

dolly

Member
I don't have any problems with polyamory as long as a few criteria are met:

1) All parties consent and are aware of what is going on.
2) All parties are of legal age.
3) No one was pressured into it.
4) Divorce is allowed, should they choose to do so.
5) Open communication is a huge MUST because jealousy can become a problem if left unchecked.

That said, being in a poly relationship has a lot of benefits. More support, easier to divide duties and chores, more adults looking after the kids, more income, etc.
 

dolly

Member
Oh - I'd like to throw out, I think poly relationships are better when everyone is in love or sexually attracted to everyone else. One man who loves 4 women (but the 4 women are at best friends) is going to have far less success that one man who loves 4 woman and each of the woman ALSO are in love with each other.

or 3 men
or 5 women
or whatever the situation is
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Oh - I'd like to throw out, I think poly relationships are better when everyone is in love or sexually attracted to everyone else. One man who loves 4 women (but the 4 women are at best friends) is going to have far less success that one man who loves 4 woman and each of the woman ALSO are in love with each other.

or 3 men
or 5 women
or whatever the situation is

I have to agree its easier.
 

no-body

Well-Known Member
Tell me, no-body, how many poly people do you personally know well enough to comment on their "behavior"?

That is POLY people, not unfaithful people.

None whatsoever which is also part of my point. The only time I've seen poly people on TV or anything mainstream it's as part of a side-show thing, more like look at the freaks rather than hey look what this is all about love, consent, understanding, etc.

Not all directed at you, but anyone who wants to comment:

It seems disingenuous to go straight to the bigot talk when I haven't seen one shred of legitimization about this lifestyle anywhere, not even in this thread. I know to many we shouldn't have to convince others of anything we should accept each other as is but the world is an unfair place and there will never be a point where everyone will accept others, that's just reality. Like it or not you have to educate or your thing is no more than a kink.

It was once thought by very educated men that homosexuality was a mental illness, the darker races where physically less advanced than the white, etc Look at what Abraham Lincoln thought about blacks.

Whatever, my personal opinion about poly comes more from a cynical view of humanity more than any moral objections. It would take a lot of energy and effort to make a thing like that work, especially if you throw kids in the mix. You can argue about community or whatever making it easier but sex always muddies things up and I can't imagine anyone wanting to get into such a mess with like 99% of society being against you and what you stand for without some heavy psychological traumas and issues behind it.

I'm sure those into poly might think this is ignorant but I'm man enough to say I'm wrong if given real evidence. Post me studies saying poly people aren't more likely to be abused as children, that they have very stable relationships/lives, their children are better off or the same than monogamous relationship children, etc. What is behind wanting to do this that's not psychological? it some vestigial gene left over from when humanity was poly? If you can't answer this for someone who's non-religious and has no ill-will towards you, you aren't going to find mainstream acceptance anytime in the next century, sorry.
 
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Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
It seems disingenuous to go straight to the bigot talk when I haven't seen one shred of legitimization about this lifestyle anywhere, not even in this thread.

You can argue about community or whatever making it easier but sex always muddies things up and I can't imagine anyone wanting to get into such a mess with like 99% of society being against you and what you stand for without some heavy psychological traumas and issues behind it.

I know two couples in real life who have had successful open marriages for years, and I know of several more online.

As for society being against you, it's hard to say what kind of psychological trauma people have experienced trying to stuff themselves into accepted standards, and whether it's more traumatizing to be true to who you are and endure societal scorn or to go with the flow.

Speaking of societal scorn, it's always the wave-makers who bear the brunt of it - the early feminists, civil rights activists, open homosexuals - and those who come after enjoy greater freedom. I'm grateful for those who ruined their reputations and lost their lives so I could vote, and I'm grateful for those who speak in favor of other lifestyles so society becomes more accepting.
 

no-body

Well-Known Member
I know two couples in real life who have had successful open marriages for years, and I know of several more online.

As for society being against you, it's hard to say what kind of psychological trauma people have experienced trying to stuff themselves into accepted standards, and whether it's more traumatizing to be true to who you are and endure societal scorn or to go with the flow.

An "open marriage" seems a lot different from some self described lifestyle where you bring in other person(s) and try to argue it's some sort of sexuality.

Speaking of societal scorn, it's always the wave-makers who bear the brunt of it - the early feminists, civil rights activists, open homosexuals - and those who come after enjoy greater freedom. I'm grateful for those who ruined their reputations and lost their lives so I could vote, and I'm grateful for those who speak in favor of other lifestyles so society becomes more accepting.
That's life.
 
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