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What's the point of God?

xkatz

xkatz

Well-Known Member
What's the point of worshiping God if humans are going to disappear from the face of the world (or possibly the universe) eventually? What's the point if we are only a very small part of the bigger picture?
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
xkatz said:
What's the point of worshiping God if humans are going to disappear from the face of the world (or possibly the universe) eventually? What's the point if we are only a very small part of the bigger picture?
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When the big picture comes up, EVERYTHING becomes pointless, since EVERYTHING we do is ultimately transitory.

It's a short-term thing while we're here in these bodies, not a long-term one.
 
lunamoth

lunamoth

Will to love
Paul Tillich said:
Grace strikes us when we are in great pain and restlessness. It strikes us when we walk through the dark valley of meaninglessness and empty life. It strikes us when we feel that our separation is deeper than usual, because we feel we have violated another life, a life which we have loved, or from which we were estranged...It strikes us when, year after year, the longed for perfection of life does not appear, when old compulsions reign within us as they have for decades, when despair destroys all joy and courage. Sometimes at that moment a wave of light breaks into our darkness and it is as though a voice were saying: "You are accepted, accepted by that which is greater than you, and the name of which you do not know. Do not ask for the name now; perhaps you will find it later. Do not try to do anything now;p perhaps later you will do much. Do not seek for anything; do not perform anything; do not intend anything. Simply accept the fact that you are accepted!"
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Tillich, The Shaking of the Foundations, 1948
 
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AllanV

Active Member
xkatz said:
What's the point of worshiping God if humans are going to disappear from the face of the world (or possibly the universe) eventually? What's the point if we are only a very small part of the bigger picture?
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The objective is to be free of the human aspects seen in all behavior. At a personal level to be free of all of the traits that cause poor responses in any situation. This includes how one speaks to others and how one feels when spoken to.
No one really knows the true measure of what is required. Everything is in the mind. Worshiping God requires another nature, with a renewed mind and this is true worship.

The potential is immortality, living forever, being able to regenerate a form much more refined than the human one. The potential is to play a big part in the bigger picture.
 
U

UnTheist

Well-Known Member
xkatz said:
What's the point of worshiping God if humans are going to disappear from the face of the world (or possibly the universe) eventually? What's the point if we are only a very small part of the bigger picture?
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How is any of this relevant to the question?
 
science_is_my_god

science_is_my_god

Philosophical Monist
Well, first of all, I would like to let you know that "What's the point of god?" and "What's the point of worshiping god" to be two different things entirely.

From my experience in theism, one tends to believe in god in order to try and explain the unknown. This is god when looked at from a philosophical stance. This is how I like to view "god." If there exists something beyond our brain's ability to understand or comprehend, then it gives us a figurative manifestation in which our limited intellect can attempt to perceive it.

On the other hand, you have god in a religious sense. This is the god you don't just believe in, but must also worship. One typically subjects themselves to this worship in an attempt of (however falsely misguided) reaching salvation. For example, if one has a phobia of death, they can accept worshiping god to reach the afterlife in order to calm one's fears. The brain has been proven to do this; when we are extremely afraid of something, the brain subconsciously tricks the brain into believing something regardless of its foundation.

In conclusion, one typically believes in god in order to try and understand the unknown, and one typically worships god because one or more extreme phobias tells their brain to do so.
 
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Penumbra

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
xkatz said:
What's the point of worshiping God if humans are going to disappear from the face of the world (or possibly the universe) eventually? What's the point if we are only a very small part of the bigger picture?
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Most people that worship a god seem to do so because they expect him to positively intervene in their affairs, or because they want to have a better afterlife and believe worshiping will lead to that, and/or because they enjoy doing it and get a sort of emotional high or comfort from it.
 
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Beta

Well-Known Member
xkatz said:
What's the point of worshiping God if humans are going to disappear from the face of the world (or possibly the universe) eventually? What's the point if we are only a very small part of the bigger picture?
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The point is God gives man a chance to move up into the bigger picture. Starting out as a small part does not mean we have to stay small or vanish away. Creation is foreward-moving and we can be part of it ! :yes:
 
waitasec

waitasec

Veteran Member
Beta said:
The point is God gives man a chance to move up into the bigger picture. Starting out as a small part does not mean we have to stay small or vanish away. Creation is foreward-moving and we can be part of it ! :yes:
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how do you know this?
 
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proffesb

Member
I think it is different for different people. Some reasons to worship would be to find comfort while we are here, to explain the unknown, being a part of community, and controlling people (not saying this is always the case but it has obviously been done).
 
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EmpiricalAgnosticAtheist

Member
First off, I'd like to say hi. 1'st post here, got tired of debating religion & philosophy on a UFC discussion forum.

At any rate, all religions are theories. They propose an explanation for life's greatest questions:

- How did we come into existence?
- Who is responsible for the creation of life/ existence as we know it?
- What is the meaning of life?

Etc etc ad nauseam.

In the end, they're all just theories. As you might be able to tell from my username, I am an agnostic atheist. Meaning that I don't believe it's possible to know whether or not God(s) exist, and don't believe in any specific God(s); furthermore, I don't claim that it will always be impossible to know such things. But right now, with what we have to work with, I don't think we can definitively say that deities do or do not exist.

I tend to think that whatever is responsible for this universe, for our existence... it's much better than any currently existing definition or explanation.
 
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