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church hierarchy.

jonny

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Aqualung said:
They're called seventies but there's not 70 people?! Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? is it so danged weird?! :banghead3 again!
I don't know. It think it's from the Bible somewhere. Luke 10:1 and Luke 10:17. There are more scriptures in the topical guide.
 

jonny

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SoyLeche said:
I had heard that as well, but there are 8 now, so that can't be the case.

Here is how quarum numbers work. We'll take the Deacons for an example, because they are the easiest. A Quarum of Deacons is 12 people. If you have 13 Deacons in the ward, you need to have 2 quarums. They won't be full, but a single quarum can't have more than 12, so you need 2. My brother's ward has 2 Elder's Quarums, which means they have at least 97 Elders. That is why the Quarums of the 70 don't necessarily have 70 people. 70 is the maximum they can have.
Your probably right about the number, but I honestly don't know.
 

jonny

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The History of the seventies is kind of interesting. Their responsibilities have changed over time. At one point there were 146 quorums of the seventy and in the 1930s they were under the stake presidents. It wasn't until 1976 that Seventies became general authorities.

While the organization has changed, they have always had the same responsibility, "preach the gospel and be especial witnesses of Christ."
 

jonny

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They are not sustained as Prophets, Seers, and Revelators. They cannot establish doctrine. They act under the direction of the Apostles. I should also mention that they are not called for life, like Apostles are.
 

Aqualung

Tasty
jonny said:
They are not sustained as Prophets, Seers, and Revelators. They cannot establish doctrine. They act under the direction of the Apostles. I should also mention that they are not called for life, like Apostles are.
Yes! I get something!!!

Okay. then who comes next?
 

jonny

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Ok. Next is the more local area. Throughout the world there are missions. Each mission has a mission president. To start out with, I'll explain areas with few members. In this case, there is no stake. Instead, of the stake president, the mission president presides over the area. Like the first presidency, He has two counselors.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
jonny said:
I figured out who the Young Men Presidency is - it's the Presiding Bishopric. They are the presidency of the Aaronic Priesthood and work under the first presidency.
Are you sure about this? My wife's uncle is in the Young Men's General Presidency, so it must be distinct from the Presiding Bishopric.
 

jonny

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If there aren't a lot of members in the area, instead of a ward there is a branch. The branch doesn't have a bishop. Instead it has a Branch Presidency.

With mission presidents, they are not only over the branches in remote areas, but they are also over all the missionaries in the mission.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
jonny said:
Ok. Next is the more local area. Throughout the world there are missions. Each mission has a mission president. To start out with, I'll explain areas with few members. In this case, there is no stake. Instead, of the stake president, the mission president presides over the area. Like the first presidency, He has two counselors.
Mission Presidents come from all over the world and serve for 3 years. Mine in Peru was from Seattle. Their councilors are usually local.
 

jonny

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SoyLeche said:
Are you sure about this? My wife's uncle is in the Young Men's General Presidency, so it must be distinct from the Presiding Bishopric.
I read it in a church manual right before I made the post, but it may have changed. There is probably a difference between being over the Aaronic Priesthood and being over the young men (like in the wards).
 

SoyLeche

meh...
jonny said:
I read it in a church manual right before I made the post, but it may have changed. There is probably a difference between being over the Aaronic Priesthood and being over the young men (like in the wards).
Yeah, I guess I can see the distinction.
 

jonny

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No questions about the missions or branches? Then I'll move on to the stakes. :)

Now, you'll notice a pattern. The organization of the stake is pretty similar to the upper organization of the church. The state president has two counselors. There are also 12 High Counselors that assist them. The Stake Presidency is the presidency of the stake's high priest quorum. Each ward has a high priest group, but the quorum meets together once a year. The state also has relief society, young women, young men, and primary leaders.
 

jonny

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Last there are the wards. Each ward has a bishop who has two counselors. The bishop is the president of the priest's quorum and the Aaronic Priesthood for the ward.

There is also an Elders Quorum Presidency that presides over the elders. Similar organization is found with the Relief Society, Young Women and Primary.

The young men have three quorums - deacons, teachers, and priests. Deacons and teachers have a presidency. Since the bishop is the president of the priests quorum, they have two assistants. The young women are divided into the beehives, miamaids, and laurels. Each class has a presidency.

Everything else in the ward falls somewhere under these organizations (such as the Ward Mission Leader, Primiary Teachers, etc.).
 

jonny

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Last is the smallest unit in the church (that I know of). A group is part of a ward, but it meets seperately, usually because of travel. They are usually very small and have a Group Leader. When they have enough priesthood leaders they are usually organized into branches.

All right, any questions?
 

nutshell

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I would just add that the smallest unit of the church is the family with the father as the priesthood leader and the mother as the equal partner. Together, they guide their children in righteousness.
 

nutshell

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how was dinner? What'd you have?

I'll try to find a Church org. chart for us. It will make things easier to understand if we can see it visually.
 

Aqualung

Tasty
what do bishops do that a pres of something can't? Within that local of an area, is it pretty much just delegation of responsibility?
 
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