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Judgement Day

Lady Crimson

Lady Crimson

credo quia absurdum
Do you agree that you will be judged by your own religion or belief? or just considering the 'true' religion?

I certainly hope i will be judged by my own religion and beliefs, otherwise I just think it will be an unfair trial.
 
Malus 12:9

Malus 12:9

Temporarily Deactive.
Do you agree that you will be judged by your own religion or belief?
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I do not believe I will be judged on the "day" because I do not belve in that "day" itself. :)

I sînt judecător suficient as acesta este.:(
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
We will not be judged on our beliefs or the beliefs of our religion.
We will be judged by God on his terms.
On how we lived our lives, the choices we made, the good we have done, how we have helped other lives, how we have treated the environment .
God knows we are all sinners and will expect repentance.

He will not judge us for following a particular religion, as our choice in the matter varies largely on our birth.

Terry
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Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I do not believe in a judgement day. I do believe that when someone dies, if they have built up a large amount of negative karma, they will have to re-experience there negative events from the eyes of thier victims, until they have fully learned the damage they caused.
 
Bennettresearch

Bennettresearch

Politically Incorrect
Two interesting concepts have appeared in this thread, No Judgement and Reincarnation. There is a very interesting statement about this in Revelation,

`He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.'

Revelation 2:11
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What we have here is a statement that seems to support reincarnation. My conclusion about this verse is that it is implying the death of the soul. This would be the "that's it, you're outta here" judgement. It also implies that you still exist after you die. This does not invalidate the Karma scenario, which is a judgement by God.

I think the concept of not making it to heaven if you don't follow Jesus is a little skewed. Surely, if you follow Him, you will be rewarded in heaven or pass the judgement. However, if someone manages to accomplish this and is not a Christian, they will have done the same things as if they had followed Jesus anyway. Therefore, the concept of a set of rules for passing judgement are the same no matter what religion you are, just as Terry said.
 
michel

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
I suppose the way I see this is much like Terry; I can't really see God judging people by criteria such as what religion they followed, how many times they went to church.


I think it's much more a case of 'How have you lived your life ?' - I hope he doesn't ask me that, because I find it hard to find something decent in me.:D
 
Darkdale

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
Lady Crimson said:
Do you agree that you will be judged by your own religion or belief? or just considering the 'true' religion?

I certainly hope i will be judged by my own religion and beliefs, otherwise I just think it will be an unfair trial.
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The gods are not your judge and jury. The only judgment we face is the judgment of natural consequences.
 
J

jonny

Well-Known Member
Bennettresearch said:
Two interesting concepts have appeared in this thread, No Judgement and Reincarnation. There is a very interesting statement about this in Revelation,

`He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.'

Revelation 2:11
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I believe that the second death is spiritual death, or separation from God.

I believe that all of us will have to stand before God to be judged and that he will judge us according to our knowledge and what we have done with that knowledge The judgment will be fair, and I believe, in the end, that we will be comfortable with where we end up.
 
Quiddity

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
If we were to be judged by our comprehension of the cosmos then hardly anyone would make it. There is no test at the pearly gates. All one needs is to remain in God's grace, no matter where you are in the process of your metamorphosis.

~Victor
 
Bennettresearch

Bennettresearch

Politically Incorrect
Hi Jonny,

I don't really see a sharp division between the spirit and the soul, that is why I used that term. Please eloborate on this more. It sounds like an interesting viewpoint.
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
If I were to believe in a judgement day, then it would be the day we see ourselves as we really are, both good and bad, without illusions of any sort.
 
Quiddity

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Sunstone said:
If I were to believe in a judgement day, then it would be the day we see ourselves as we really are, both good and bad, without illusions of any sort.
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Elaborate on this some more. I'm not sure I fully grasped it what you are saying.

~Victor
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Victor said:
Elaborate on this some more. I'm not sure I fully grasped it what you are saying.

~Victor
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Were I to believe in judgement day, then it would be the day we see ourselves as god sees us. Presumably that would be to see ourselves without the limited view and the illusions that we commonly have about ourselves.
 
Malus 12:9

Malus 12:9

Temporarily Deactive.
Instead of galloping Zebras and rainbows and funny rabbits will there be flames and skeletons
riding carriages and stuff? LOL
 
Quiddity

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Sunstone said:
Were I to believe in judgement day, then it would be the day we see ourselves as god sees us. Presumably that would be to see ourselves without the limited view and the illusions that we commonly have about ourselves.
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I dont understand what you mean by "limited view and the illusions".

~Victor
 
Chimowowo

Chimowowo

Member
A judgment day just makes no sense to me at all. The first question I have is, if your god is all powerful, and can see into the future and/or knows how it all end, why would he create a world/universe and then destroy it? He knows what will happen so why not skip the middle and treat the people/souls directly as they are/would be.

It makes more sense to me if you believe in a god that is omniscient that when he created the world/universe that he set it up for a purpose, and will let it run forever so as to keep fulfilling that purpose.
 
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