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George W. Bush, war criminal

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Genuine Realist

Genuine Realist

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I will respond to this.

I'm not a conservative, but a Populist, which in these times makes me a protoypical liberal hawk.

All I said above was that a great deal of the criticism of Bush was myth-based, and that he may yet be proven to be on the right side of history. Unthinkable thoughts, to some.
 
McBell

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Proud 2B Gay said:
I think the opposite. I think in the future we'll look back on Iraq as another Vietnam. What did we succeed in in Iraq? We didn't find any weapons and we certainly didn't bring Iraq to peace and stability.
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Well, it did succeed in making numerous terrorist group stronger.
It succeeded in GW Bush being scared to leave the USA.
 
Rainbow Mage

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Genuine Realist said:
I will respond to this.

I'm not a conservative, but a Populist, which in these times makes me a protoypical liberal hawk.

All I said above was that a great deal of the criticism of Bush was myth-based, and that he may yet be proven to be on the right side of history. Unthinkable thoughts, to some.
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Some of the criticism of Bush is myth-based? Snort! Which would that be? When he lied to start a war? When he kept CIA torture camps a secret? Oh yes, such a good president...
 
tumbleweed41

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Proud 2B Gay said:
Some of the criticism of Bush is myth-based? Snort! Which would that be? When he lied to start a war? When he kept CIA torture camps a secret? Oh yes, such a good president...
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Hey now, it wasn't All his fault....

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The Voice of Reason

The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
Genuine Realist said:
I will respond to this.

I'm not a conservative, but a Populist, which in these times makes me a protoypical liberal hawk.

All I said above was that a great deal of the criticism of Bush was myth-based, and that he may yet be proven to be on the right side of history. Unthinkable thoughts, to some.
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Genuine - the labels with which you self identify are immaterial. The bottom line is, you may end up being right. Then again, you may end up being so far out in left field that statements like those you are making receive even more ridicule than we are currently heaping on them now. Bush is held in such high disregard for a reason - he lied the US into a war. A war in which a lot of people died, and his cronies reaped untold billions of dollars in profits. He took great pride in doing things that he knew would split this country right down the middle - for his own political gain. He took a dump on the lower and middle classes for the sole purpose of enriching the very upper crust of the wealthy in this country.

In summation, history may judge him to have been right on any number of issues - but I doubt it. I highly doubt it.
 
McBell

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Proud 2B Gay said:
Well I suppose you do have a point there...
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Not really.
I mean was not Bush the President?
Was it not Bush who held the office?
To share the blame with another is to lessen the degree of blame that Bush should be shouldering.

I mean he was only able to do what Bush LET HIM do...
 
Rainbow Mage

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Mestemia said:
Not really.
I mean was not Bush the President?
Was it not Bush who held the office?
To share the blame with another is to lessen the degree of blame that Bush should be shouldering.

I mean he was only able to do what Bush LET HIM do...
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I wasn't saying that to subtract from Bush's responsibilities.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Genuine Realist said:
To Luis Dantas:

The probability of additional terrorist attacks was discussed everywhere. Obama Bin LAden had declared war on the West, and had effected a number of attacks in the preceding years. It's impossible to prove a negative - obviously - these bad things didn't happen because we did so and so. You can only investigate the might-have-been intuitively. But we have had a good ten years, for which we can all be thankful.
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Not thanks to the disastrous decisions of GWB, that is for sure.

As others well stated, GWB gave OBL pretty much everything he could possibly want for. Namely, a US of A that acts like a dangerous bully and motivates further terrorism.


There are no diminished liberties of US citizens. The society goes on as riotously open as always, and more so everyday. No one ignored the Constitution, or violated it, or attacked it. This is the core of the myth-making I noted.
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Do you mean it?


Obama has continued most of the security apparatus in place, as will his successor.
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That is my main disappointment with Obama, yes.


Let me go further. As the new government of Iraq gains strength and credibility, and a push develops for consensual governments in Egypt and elsewhere, there is a PROBABILITY that Bush, Blair, and the neo-conservative approach were correct. I know it's unthinkable, but try.
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Do they get to grow wings and fly under their own power as well? Might as well go the extra mile and claim that as well.
 
Reverend Rick

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Genuine Realist said:
I will respond to this.

I'm not a conservative, but a Populist, which in these times makes me a protoypical liberal hawk.

All I said above was that a great deal of the criticism of Bush was myth-based, and that he may yet be proven to be on the right side of history. Unthinkable thoughts, to some.
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It is just the symptoms of BDS. I believe it can be contributed to watching too much PMSNBC. :D
 
Reverend Rick

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Mestemia said:
Perhaps.
But I do find it rather curious that Realist is the only one presenting myth in this thread....:yes:
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Oh come on! Look, I respect your "opinions". You all can have a hate Bush fest all you like, it's cool. ;)

The funny part is, some of you cannot even imagine anyone disagreeing with you. :ignore:
 
McBell

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Reverend Rick said:
Oh come on! Look, I respect your "opinions". You all can have a hate Bush fest all you like, it's cool. ;)

The funny part is, some of you cannot even imagine anyone disagreeing with you. :ignore:
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If you are not going to actually read the thread before you comment...

Of course, I suspect that perhaps you are just going to jump up on the Bush Idolatry Bandwagon?
Not even going to bother to find out what was said and by whom in this thread?
Or perhaps you are honestly taking the same closed eyed, ignore what you dislike position that Realist has blatantly demonstrated in this thread?
 
Reverend Rick

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Mestemia said:
If you are not going to actually read the thread before you comment...

Of course, I suspect that perhaps you are just going to jump up on the Bush Idolatry Bandwagon?
Not even going to bother to find out what was said and by whom in this thread?
Or perhaps you are honestly taking the same closed eyed, ignore what you dislike position that Realist has blatantly demonstrated in this thread?
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I read the thread. The only thing I agreed with that GWB settled an old debt.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
"BDS"?

Wow. Such a waste of creativity. Did people try to save Nixon's reputation that badly back in the day?
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Really, Rev, do you think there is any basis to accusations of "BDS"?

If anything, history will ask why people put up with him for so long.
 
Reverend Rick

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
LuisDantas said:
Really, Rev, do you think there is any basis to accusations of "BDS"?

If anything, history will ask why people put up with him for so long.
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Luis, I will be dead and you will be an old man when you realise the final chapter on GWB is yet to be written.

This whole thread has been a perfect example of BDS. :sorry1:

I see Bush as a man who did what he thought to be right and did not worry about what people thought of him. If you think about it, that is pretty selfless.

Look, you detest violence. That is admirable. The thing is, not everyone is like you Luis. We Americans are pretty darned violent.
 
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