By the practice of reading it. (the bible)
Besides the practice of reading Scripture, the people of Acts [17vs11] searched or researches the Scriptures daily to see if what they were hearing was what the Bible really teaches.
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By the practice of reading it. (the bible)
By the practice of reading it. (the bible)
I don't care what the Apostles did frankly save as a secondary concern to the life of Jesus. And since Timothy said a minister should be supported by the flock in a letter how would you take that if you were a minister, give me support as in things and money so I can sit on my duff.
So why do we assume the teachings of a bunch of ministers should hold such authority?
but comprehension involves interpretation and it also involves understanding the circumstances surrounding the oral traditions...
The Hebrew OT Scriptures were not oral but written.
The Pharisees were teaching oral over the written,
and Jesus condemned them for it. -Mark 7v7,13; Matthew chapter 23.
'According to'
exactly, where else...
have you ever wondered why absolutely nothing was written down in the Hebrew scriptures about the so-called oral laws?
instead we find this
Deut 4:1-2 And now, O Israel, listen to the regulations and the judicial decisions that I am teaching YOU to do, ... 2 YOU must not add to the word that I am commanding YOU, neither must YOU take away from it
Deut 12:32 Every word that I am commanding YOU is what YOU should be careful to do. YOU must not add to it nor take away from it
Prov 30:5-6 Every saying of God is refined. ...6 Add nothing to his words, that he may not reprove you, and that you may not have to be proved a liar
Joshua 1:7 Only be courageous and very strong to take care to do according to all the law that Moses my servant commanded you. Do not turn aside from it
This whole 'oral law' business is a little fishy if you ask me.
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]According to Rabbinic Judaism, the oral Torah, oral Law, or oral tradition (Hebrew: תורה שבעל פה, Torah she-be-`al peh) was given by God orally to Moses in conjunction with the written Torah (Hebrew: תורה שבכתב, Torah she-bi-khtav), after which it was passed down orally through the ages. Later to be codified and written in the Talmud.
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The Mosaic Law clearly left primary religious authority and instruction in the hands of the priests, the descendants of Aaron. (Leviticus 10:8-11; Deuteronomy 24:8; 2 Chronicles 26:16-20; Malachi 2:7) Through the centuries, however, some priests became unfaithful and corrupt.
During the era of Greek domination, many priests compromised on religious issues. In the second century B.C.E., the Phariseesa new group within Judaism that distrusted the priesthoodbegan instituting traditions by which the common man could consider himself as holy as the priest.
These traditions appealed to many, but they were an unacceptable addition to the Law.Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32 (13:1 in Jewish editions).
[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]The Pharisees became the new scholars of the Law, doing the job that they felt the priests were not doing. Since the Mosaic Law did not allow for their authority, they developed new methods of interpreting Scripture through cryptic allusions and by other methods seemingly supporting their views. As the chief caretakers and promoters of these traditions, they created a new base of authority in Israel. By the first century C.E., the Pharisees had become a dominant force in Judaism.[/FONT]
As they collected existing oral traditions and searched for Scriptural implication to establish more of their own, the Pharisees saw the need to give added authority to their activity. A new concept regarding the origin of these traditions was born. The rabbis began to teach: Moses received Torah at Sinai and handed it on to Joshua, Joshua to elders, and elders to prophets. And prophets handed it on to the men of the great assembly.Avot 1:1, the Mishnah.
[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]In saying, Moses received Torah, the rabbis were referring not only to the written laws but to all their oral traditions. They claimed that these traditionsinvented and developed by menwere given to Moses by God at Sinai. And they taught that God had not left it up to men to fill in the gaps but had orally defined what the written Law had left unsaid. According to them, Moses passed this oral law down through the generations, not to the priests, but to other leaders. The Pharisees themselves claimed to be the natural inheritors of this unbroken chain of authority.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Jesus, whose God-given authority was questioned by the Jewish religious leaders, had foretold the destruction of the temple. (Matthew 23:3724:2) After the Romans destroyed the temple in 70 C.E., the requirements of the Mosaic Law involving sacrifices and priestly service could no longer be met. All records had been lost.[/FONT]
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Rather than seeing these events as evidence that Jesus was the Messiah, the Pharisees found another solution. They had already usurped much of the authority of the priesthood. With the temple destroyed, they could go one step further. The rabbinic academy at Yavneh became the center for a reorganized Sanhedrinthe Jewish high court. Under the leadership of Yohanan ben Zakkai and Gamaliel II at Yavneh, Judaism was completely restructured. The Pharisees reasoned that the oral law given to Moses at Sinai had already foreseen and made provision for this.[/FONT]
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Rabbinic academies took on added prominence. Their main curriculum was intense discussion, memorization, and application of the oral law. Previously, the basis for the oral law was tied to Scripture interpretationMidrash. Now, the ever-increasing traditions that were accumulating began to be taught and organized separately. Each ruling of the oral law was reduced to short, easily memorized phrases, often set to a melody. All in all, this man-made method was in opposition to God's original instruction[/FONT]
well, never put anything in writing if you don't want it to bite you in the arse...
for what it's worth pegg, laws are governed by integrity and dignity. 2 human traits that are highly underrated by religious faith.
i'd actually be more inclined to conclude that religion itself sets the highest of ideals and promotes the highest of ideals
unfortunately though, most of the people who are at the helm often have ulterior motives and not the best of intentions ...they use something good, something that good people will put their whole heart and soul into, and they will drain it for every penny its worth and in doing so they turn what is good into something that is obscene.
A Christian understands the Bible through the Hellenistic mind of the Greek writers of the NT.
Pegg -
The NT was all written in Greek.
Iasion
A Christian understands the Bible through the Hellenistic mind of the Greek writers of the NT.
A Christian understands the Bible through the Hellenistic mind of the Greek writers of the NT.
in other words you understand the bible to be an eye witness account...
then how is that possible if the gospels were written at the very least 25 yrs after jesus died?
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]WHAT exactly did the apostle Paul mean when he said that the Bible is inspired of God? Paul, writing in the Greek language, used a word that literally means God-breathed. By that, Paul meant that God by means of his holy spirit guided the Bible writers to write only what He wanted them to write. These Bible writers spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit, said the apostle Peter. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif](2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif](2 Peter 1:21) For prophecy was at no time brought by mans will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit.[/FONT]