brotherjim
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The 411 on "judging":
1) The Holy Word forbids the Christian to judge those outside the church.
--Mt. 7:1; Lk. 6:37; Jn. 12:47; Rom. 2:1; 1 Cor. 4:5, 5:12-13
2) Regarding judging other Christians, the Holy Word gives clear procedures, and confines it to those of our own local fellowship.
3) Judging of others in our local fellowship is confined to those outwardly evident, provable sins.
4) In no case is one human being allowed to judge the motives of another, for only God knows the heart---just to presume to know someones motive ("thoughts and intents of the heart") and judge it as being evil, is sinful judgment and condemnation, even when not voiced and just secretly thought ("whoever looks upon a woman to lust---"; Mt. 5:28).
5) Those who violate the above are passed by in the First Resurrection, kept in store for Judgment Day.
6) The only exception in the Holy Word to the above is for those who have obtained from Heaven the supernatural Gift of the Spirit of Prophesying (1 Cor. 14:1, 5, 39, etc.), whereby they then will find themselves from time to time in a situation parallel the Lord Jesus': "I do not judge, but if I do judge, you can know my judgment is true, for it is not me who is judging but the Father so doing it through me: for I did not come to do my own will, including any judgment of others, but to do the Heavenly Fathers will, so that the world might be saved." (Para. and ampl. and compiled; Jn. 3:17, 5:30, 8:15-16, 12:47.) But someone must be very, very certain that they are indeed operating supernaturally in the Spirit in this, for otherwise they will be judging and condemning their own selves.
Very, very rare.
7) The Holy Word declares we are not even capable of judging our own selves---for the heart is desperately evil and self-deceptive---but since elsewhere we are commanded to so do, then we can know such self-judgment must be a concerted effort between the supernatural revelatory ability of God's Spirit, and us as a willing listener---hence the prayer closet vitally needed on a reg. basis.
8 ) The unbeliever will be convicted, if such is possible, by the will of God, by simply preaching the Holy Word's Gospel. To wit:
Until 2,000 years ago God winked at sin, but ever since has commanded every human being to stop living selfishly and instead; 1) Love God with all facets of their being, and; 2) Love every human being they know to exist, even all enemies, even at times to the degree Jesus Loved us by dying for us. For those who commit in their heart and mind to so do---by receiving one Grace after another until they are either perfected in God's supernatural Love or die in the process---they will live forever in a New Heaven with God and in a glorified body. (If not, they will be resurrected to stand before God and be judged by Him.)
Acts 17:30-31; Lk. 10:25-28; 1 Jn. 2:3-5, 4:12b-13, 4:16-18; Jn. 5:24-29; Heb. 9:27; Rev. 22:14; Eph. 2:8-9; etc.
(Read again the first post-Jesus-in-the-flesh-and-Blood sermon of Peters [Acts 2], and perhaps see how it convicted the audience of their failure to love as was commanded the Hebraic Jew [Lev. 19:18 vs. Acts 2:23, 36], them succumbing to some of the same heart reactions perhaps felt at "this" moment by some of you for me [if not true of you, do not judge me as flattering myself, or---].)
But since today's so-called "Christian" is living disobedient to the above Love Commandments, they do not share such a message, for by so doing they would condemn their own selves, hence they resort to the "envy and strife" (KJV) methodology, judging and condemning others in those things that the witnessing Christian has either overcome or is able to keep under control and hidden in their heart, such as some of the Ten Commandments---but seldom if ever The Two. (And yes, I claim to be writing prophetically.)
Truly sorrowed to be the [alleged] messenger to say, brother jim
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1) The Holy Word forbids the Christian to judge those outside the church.
--Mt. 7:1; Lk. 6:37; Jn. 12:47; Rom. 2:1; 1 Cor. 4:5, 5:12-13
2) Regarding judging other Christians, the Holy Word gives clear procedures, and confines it to those of our own local fellowship.
3) Judging of others in our local fellowship is confined to those outwardly evident, provable sins.
4) In no case is one human being allowed to judge the motives of another, for only God knows the heart---just to presume to know someones motive ("thoughts and intents of the heart") and judge it as being evil, is sinful judgment and condemnation, even when not voiced and just secretly thought ("whoever looks upon a woman to lust---"; Mt. 5:28).
5) Those who violate the above are passed by in the First Resurrection, kept in store for Judgment Day.
6) The only exception in the Holy Word to the above is for those who have obtained from Heaven the supernatural Gift of the Spirit of Prophesying (1 Cor. 14:1, 5, 39, etc.), whereby they then will find themselves from time to time in a situation parallel the Lord Jesus': "I do not judge, but if I do judge, you can know my judgment is true, for it is not me who is judging but the Father so doing it through me: for I did not come to do my own will, including any judgment of others, but to do the Heavenly Fathers will, so that the world might be saved." (Para. and ampl. and compiled; Jn. 3:17, 5:30, 8:15-16, 12:47.) But someone must be very, very certain that they are indeed operating supernaturally in the Spirit in this, for otherwise they will be judging and condemning their own selves.
Very, very rare.
7) The Holy Word declares we are not even capable of judging our own selves---for the heart is desperately evil and self-deceptive---but since elsewhere we are commanded to so do, then we can know such self-judgment must be a concerted effort between the supernatural revelatory ability of God's Spirit, and us as a willing listener---hence the prayer closet vitally needed on a reg. basis.
8 ) The unbeliever will be convicted, if such is possible, by the will of God, by simply preaching the Holy Word's Gospel. To wit:
Until 2,000 years ago God winked at sin, but ever since has commanded every human being to stop living selfishly and instead; 1) Love God with all facets of their being, and; 2) Love every human being they know to exist, even all enemies, even at times to the degree Jesus Loved us by dying for us. For those who commit in their heart and mind to so do---by receiving one Grace after another until they are either perfected in God's supernatural Love or die in the process---they will live forever in a New Heaven with God and in a glorified body. (If not, they will be resurrected to stand before God and be judged by Him.)
Acts 17:30-31; Lk. 10:25-28; 1 Jn. 2:3-5, 4:12b-13, 4:16-18; Jn. 5:24-29; Heb. 9:27; Rev. 22:14; Eph. 2:8-9; etc.
(Read again the first post-Jesus-in-the-flesh-and-Blood sermon of Peters [Acts 2], and perhaps see how it convicted the audience of their failure to love as was commanded the Hebraic Jew [Lev. 19:18 vs. Acts 2:23, 36], them succumbing to some of the same heart reactions perhaps felt at "this" moment by some of you for me [if not true of you, do not judge me as flattering myself, or---].)
But since today's so-called "Christian" is living disobedient to the above Love Commandments, they do not share such a message, for by so doing they would condemn their own selves, hence they resort to the "envy and strife" (KJV) methodology, judging and condemning others in those things that the witnessing Christian has either overcome or is able to keep under control and hidden in their heart, such as some of the Ten Commandments---but seldom if ever The Two. (And yes, I claim to be writing prophetically.)
Truly sorrowed to be the [alleged] messenger to say, brother jim
[email protected]
Could you please give me a verse that talks about the first point you address? I'd never heard that before, and I'd like to learn more about it.
