Ben Masada
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I knew you would understand as the gentleman that you are. Shalom to you from Yerushalaim.
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Let There Be Light and There Was Light
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I knew you would understand as the gentleman that you are. Shalom to you from Yerushalaim.
Ben Masada
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Okay, I have got a question for you. What is the difference between the Ebionites and the Nazarenes?
esmith
Veteran Member
Not sure about the Nazarenes but here is what I understand about the Ebionites:
[FONT="]Born Jewish or converted to Judaism they kept the Jewish customs and strictly followed the Jewish Law. Jesus was born human from a sexual union of Joseph and Mary. Believed God adopted Jesus at his baptism and was the most righteous person on earth. As God's son Jesus had a specific task: to fulfill the Jewish expectations of a messiah by dying for the sins of the world. But this was a Jewish God and a Jewish son, you had to be Jewish to be right with God. Also they believed that people ate meat after it had been sacrificed to atone for their sins and since Jesus died for their sins they did not need to sacrifice anymore so they became vegetarians. They also believed that Paul was a heretic. The Ebionites may have been one of the earliest Christian sects.
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outhouse
Atheistically
The Nazarenes
After Jesus ascended to heaven, many of his followers stayed in Jerusalem and gathered into a closely-knit group that became known as the Nazarenes. According to Acts 1:13-16, the group initially had about 120 members, including Jesus' mother Mary and all of his brothers. The two main leaders were Simon Peter and the oldest brother of Jesus, who was called James the Just. During an early meeting a man named Matthias was chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot in the inner circle of the twelve primary disciples.
The Nazarenes were the original core group from which Christianity grew and spread. But initially they still considered themselves to be Jews
The Nazarenes
Ebionites, or Greek: Ἐβιωναῖοι Ebionaioi, (derived from Hebrew אביונים ebyonim, ebionim, meaning the poor or poor ones), is a patristic term referring to a Jewish Christian sect or sects that existed during the first centuries of the Christian Era.[1] They regarded Jesus as the Messiah [2] and insisted on the necessity of following Jewish religious law and rites.[3] The Ebionites used only one of the Jewish Gospels, revered James the Just and rejected Paul of Tarsus as an apostate from the Law.[4] Their name suggests that they placed a special value on voluntary poverty.
Since historical records by the Ebionites are scarce, fragmentary and disputed, much of what is known or conjectured about the Ebionites derives from the Church Fathers, who wrote polemics against the Ebionites, whom they deemed heretical Judaizers.[5][6] Consequently very little about the Ebionite sect or sects is known with certainty, and most, if not all, statements about them are conjectural.
Many scholars distinguish the Ebionites from other Jewish Christian groups e.g. the Nazarenes.[7]
Ebionites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
After Jesus ascended to heaven, many of his followers stayed in Jerusalem and gathered into a closely-knit group that became known as the Nazarenes. According to Acts 1:13-16, the group initially had about 120 members, including Jesus' mother Mary and all of his brothers. The two main leaders were Simon Peter and the oldest brother of Jesus, who was called James the Just. During an early meeting a man named Matthias was chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot in the inner circle of the twelve primary disciples.
The Nazarenes were the original core group from which Christianity grew and spread. But initially they still considered themselves to be Jews
The Nazarenes
Ebionites, or Greek: Ἐβιωναῖοι Ebionaioi, (derived from Hebrew אביונים ebyonim, ebionim, meaning the poor or poor ones), is a patristic term referring to a Jewish Christian sect or sects that existed during the first centuries of the Christian Era.[1] They regarded Jesus as the Messiah [2] and insisted on the necessity of following Jewish religious law and rites.[3] The Ebionites used only one of the Jewish Gospels, revered James the Just and rejected Paul of Tarsus as an apostate from the Law.[4] Their name suggests that they placed a special value on voluntary poverty.
Since historical records by the Ebionites are scarce, fragmentary and disputed, much of what is known or conjectured about the Ebionites derives from the Church Fathers, who wrote polemics against the Ebionites, whom they deemed heretical Judaizers.[5][6] Consequently very little about the Ebionite sect or sects is known with certainty, and most, if not all, statements about them are conjectural.
Many scholars distinguish the Ebionites from other Jewish Christian groups e.g. the Nazarenes.[7]
Ebionites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ben Masada
Well-Known Member
Quite impressive. Just one more question with reference to your last statement. How could the Ebionites have been one of the earliest Christian sects if, according to Acts 11:26 it was with Paul that Christians were called Christians for the first time? That happened because Paul had spent a whole year in Antioch preaching about Jesus as Christ. Whom did the Ebionites get the idea that Jesus was Christ, which in Greek means the Messiah?
Esmith, never mind the extra question. After I read Outhouse's post, I got the answer I was looking for. Now, I understand that the Ebionites rose after Paul, got the idea of Jesus being the Christ from him and later, by some reason, they must have got disgruntled and splitted from the Pauline Christian faction.
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