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The one true religion
- Thread starter Godwilling
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
What flavor?
Jacksnyte
Reverend
But your religion label says Ebionite...
Godwilling
Organic, kinetic learner
You must have invented your own brand of Judaism because the Judaism of the Torah clearly states that there is one true god and that it is the god of the Jews. It also describes in detail the horrible punishments that those worshiping any god other than the God of Abraham will suffer.
Godwilling
Organic, kinetic learner
Actually, my only assumption about you is that I know nothing about you but what you say.
Your statement that, "either one of us if right or neither of us is right, but we both can't be" proves my original point. That is exactly what I stated at the begining of this thread.
Godwilling
Organic, kinetic learner
To say that we are carbon is like saying that carrots are vitamin A. You cannot make a human being from carbon any more than you can make a carrot from vitamin A. To make a human being you need a female human (a universe to herself) and a male human (a universe to himself) both with well functioning reproductive systems. To make a carrot you need to plant one from seed or a piece of carrot containing root sprouts.
Also carbon itself is not just carbon. There are many types of carbon and carbon in any form is much more complex than many scientists believe. What is the ratio of "dark matter" in carbon? Clearly there are many possible debates about carbon.
Godwilling
Organic, kinetic learner
Your tolerance and understanding of the beliefs of others is commendable.
Godwilling
Organic, kinetic learner
Sounds like you are quite convinced. Please let us know the part of the "holy quran" that we should check and perhaps we will become convinced as well.
Godwilling
Organic, kinetic learner
My apologies. I meant to say Davidian Seventh-Day Adventists.
Levite knows what he's talking about. The " horrible punishments" only applies to Jews. It's only us Jews who can't worship any other god. For example, a triune godhead like the Christian trinity is just fine for Non-Jews, but is prohibited to Jews. Non-Jews are only prohibited from worshiping idols.
Wombat
Active Member
God.....in Her own good time
Lk. 6.43, 44
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
The promice here is that the fruitless trees of false prophets will be hewn down, and cast into the fire.
And so it has been throughout history-
List of thousands of dead gods
http://www.graveyardofthegods.org/deadgods/listofgods.html
Thousands of fruitless dead religion trees hewn down and cast into the fire.
If the religion lives and bringeth forth good fruit it is a true religion.
When Chiang Kai-Shek was asked about the impact of the French Revolution he responded that it was Too early to tell.
Each of those you mention- Wahabis, Davidian Mormons, the Opus Dei, or Jehova's Witnesses, Bahais are sects within or schisms of a major faith, only the latter, Bahai, is an independent religion.
Will any of them get to decide anything in relation to what gets shattered and what survives?
Its Too early to tell.
Godwilling
Organic, kinetic learner
Does it mean God likes Jews more, or that God likes them less?
Does it mean that God has higher standards for Jews, or that God wants to make it harder for them for some other reason?
Godwilling
Organic, kinetic learner
Is it too early to tell whether, or not, you are correct?God.....in Her own good time
Lk. 6.43, 44
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
The promice here is that the fruitless trees of false prophets will be hewn down, and cast into the fire.
And so it has been throughout history-
List of thousands of dead gods
http://www.graveyardofthegods.org/deadgods/listofgods.html
Thousands of fruitless dead religion trees hewn down and cast into the fire.
If the religion lives and bringeth forth good fruit it is a true religion.
When Chiang Kai-Shek was asked about the impact of the French Revolution he responded that it was Too early to tell.
Each of those you mention- Wahabis, Davidian Mormons, the Opus Dei, or Jehova's Witnesses, Bahais are sects within or schisms of a major faith, only the latter, Bahai, is an independent religion.
Will any of them get to decide anything in relation to what gets shattered and what survives?
Its Too early to tell.
All religions have dogmas and rules/laws for people to obey. All other religions are impractical because few people can obey those dogmas/rules/laws set forth for them.
Christianity says that all you need to do is to believe in Jesus Christ. This is as practical as that 1/3 of human beings in the history of humanity just DID.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Many denominations of Christianity reject the doctrine of sola fide.
blackout
Violet.
I see that this principle applies all around.
(beyond the laws of the land)
People are subject to (the manifestations of)
their own "agreements"/statutes/ways/methods/limitations/
cans/can'ts/will's/won'ts/should's/shouldn'ts/punishments
prohibitions/dogmas/doctrines/whatevers,
not those of others.
If I don't up'hold some philosophy, religion, outlook or belief system,
then it has no hold on me.
(beyond the possible infringment of others, inserting--forcing themselves--or their ways,
unwanted, into the sphere of my own life. In opposition to my will.)
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Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
I believe in what "exists," and all religions "exist."
Civil Shephard
Active Member
Well... truth is we really don't know do we? I didn't come to faith in Christ because of religion... after reading and re-reading the New Testament and the Old I began to see a pattern of denial in myself and in my fellow Christians. We... Don't... Know...
But when we Christians get together and pray and read the bible and sing a song and testify a little we know that we know that we know... some of us mess up a bit and start to think that means we've cornered the market on the truth and since we're so spiritual then we know everything... that we have insight into all things as Paul said. So instead of referencing the owners manual thoroughly we go off hafe cocked with a bible and a mission and start messing with peoples heads.
Oh well... I've had to beat up on a few of those types only to see them years later and be jealous of their outright devotion to God. Some got more heart than head... and they're not usually here in these forums but some with head and heart are. To me... the true religion is that of head and/or heart... if you're honest about what you know and what you don't know about God. I know God is Love clearly defined in Christ Teachings... and like an awareness of being I AM pulled me out of the nothingness of entropy. But I don't know a whole lot more than I know...