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How will religions cope after alien contact?

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
yes it will
Not necessarily.

actually its not that hard, the more educated someone is the less influence god myth type figures play a role in said persons life. the more primitive and uneducated the more religion takes over ones whole way of life. This is fact from remote tribe's to the worlds most brilliant minds.
There's also a chance that the aliens we first meet aren't the door-to-door missionaries of the alien world? Hell, they could even find non-religiousness to illogical and superstitious. Who knows how their brains are wired up differently to ours?
 

Archer

Well-Known Member
you dont understand, they will find us> NOT we will find them.

I think the odds are even on that.

When or if they made contact, we will get answers to our unknow questions. [as long as were not on the menu]

Fillet of man and human baby back ribs:eek:

If they have mastered space and time, we might just get a peak in the past that would settle everyones imagination once and for all.
That would be cool but I doubt it would happen. It is a paradox in a way. If we will ever time travel then we already have. If we already have then why is there no evidence?

Perhaps we do and we are the aliens? I still highly doubt reverse time travel is possible in practice with real objects of any scale though. We know that time (effects of on a very small scale) can be manipulated but to take it to a level that a human can do it is out there.



actually its not that hard, the more educated someone is the less influence god myth type figures play a role in said persons life. the more primitive and uneducated the more religion takes over ones whole way of life. This is fact from remote tribe's to the worlds most brilliant minds.

right now for homo sapiens religion is only imagination and questions for what we do not know about death and a guide for living a better life for those that need a guide.

in my opinion

I am glad you qualified that and if you reworded that to say may educated people are this way I would probably agree.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
you dont understand, they will find us> NOT we will find them.

I agree - for now.

In the foreseeable future, this is true. But if they don't make contact for a good long time, we may develop the technology to make first contact.
 

Jacksnyte

Reverend
It won't affect anything. God created man in His image. We are first born.

Wow! Such arrogant delusions of grandeur! Do you really think that this miniscule spec of a planet (much less the primitive little primates running around on it) is really that important in the grand scheme of things? I very seriously doubt that it says anywhere in that book of yours anything about any planet other than Earth! This is an assumption you are making!


ASSYOUME(a more descriptive spelling for "assume" ;) )
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
I agree - for now.
What makes you so sure Nate?
What if we are talking about Amoeba like creatures?
if people haven't still figured out the challenges and problems of multiculturalism and of distinct nations on the global map. what's the point of first contact with out of world intelligent creatures?
first contact with out of Terra biology can be with anything from single cells, to silica based life as opposed to carbon based life as here on earth, to a supreme dictatorship who'll use the first contact to get first signature of Sol and our planet and to purge it of life in order to harness whichever resource they deem fit for their industry.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
It won't affect anything. God created man in His image. We are first born.
We are created in the image of Primates. useful for our own species par our course of evolution. from the beginning of the use of hand tools, to gathering in groups in order to hunt, to fire use, to forging plowshares in order to cultivate the land, to using our hands as scribes, to typing on the internet.
 

Jacksnyte

Reverend
First born, created in the creators image. See Genesis.

You forget that just because you accept your book as Truth, most of the rest of us do not. Even if we all did, we'd have to figure out how to accept the idea that the primitive life forms(man) on this little tiny particle amongst billions upon billions of worlds is more important than any others. Don't you see the supreme arrogance of this line of thinking? This harks back to the Dark Age belief that the universe revolved around the Earth.
 

Archer

Well-Known Member
You forget that just because you accept your book as Truth, most of the rest of us do not. Even if we all did, we'd have to figure out how to accept the idea that the primitive life forms(man) on this little tiny particle amongst billions upon billions of worlds is more important than any others. Don't you see the supreme arrogance of this line of thinking? This harks back to the Dark Age belief that the universe revolved around the Earth.

It is not arrogant to believe that one was created by a supernatural entity. It is arrogant to presume that he stopped with us or even started with us.

I believe that humans are a created species but I don't claim that the mechanism used was magic.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
What makes you so sure Nate?
What if we are talking about Amoeba like creatures?
if people haven't still figured out the challenges and problems of multiculturalism and of distinct nations on the global map. what's the point of first contact with out of world intelligent creatures?
first contact with out of Terra biology can be with anything from single cells, to silica based life as opposed to carbon based life as here on earth, to a supreme dictatorship who'll use the first contact to get first signature of Sol and our planet and to purge it of life in order to harness whichever resource they deem fit for their industry.

I should have stated intellegent beings.

we may have already discovered bacteria from mars in meteor fragments.

in this case ya your right, we will discover local simple life forms first due to our lack of ability to travel efficiently.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I think the odds are even on that.

not possible in my opinion archer.

our bodies have not evolved for space travel, we dont have the means to travel far enough away even if we possessed vehicles that could obtain light speed. WE cant get far enough away from this rock to explore properly, or find much if anything.

now imagine a race of beings that have evolved for millions of years in space, realizing planetary life is dangerous for life in the long run.

getting off this rock is the big picture for long term survival of any species
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
I should have stated intellegent beings.

we may have already discovered bacteria from mars in meteor fragments.
So far geologists, astronomers, and other scientists have been able to crush down the eager claims that meteorites or methane production on Mars carry the patterns of bacterial life.
either way. it wont matter that much. what serious men in position of influence should be more concerned about is which resources to harness from the Red Planet.
The discussion of wind turbines on Mars has been raging for some decent amount of years now, especially during Mars' strong dust storms which last several months.
Nuclear and Solar energy sources are also being studied by the major space agencies.
 
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Archer

Well-Known Member
not possible in my opinion archer.

our bodies have not evolved for space travel, we dont have the means to travel far enough away even if we possessed vehicles that could obtain light speed. WE cant get far enough away from this rock to explore properly, or find much if anything.

now imagine a race of beings that have evolved for millions of years in space, realizing planetary life is dangerous for life in the long run.

getting off this rock is the big picture for long term survival of any species

Imagine. That is the problem in my opinion. We must consider many things when we consider this. Considering the trillions of planets and even the uncountable number of galaxies out there finding our tiny rock is a statistical outlier and then consider evolutionary windows. Almost all species (all but perhaps ~10 on our planet have become fully self realizing) die off before ever achieving sentience, we know this from observation. All but one of these species have expired (other hominids).

Considering it took over one billion years for a fluke to happen and then us I would say fully sentient self realizing life in the multiverse is extremely rare and we could be it. There could have been others and there may be more in the future but it is a statistical outlier.

The type of planet can and will dictate the type of life that can evolve and also consider time-frames and windows of evolutionary opportunity.

My opinion is the opposite of yours but neither of us is really wrong:) that is the nice thing about opinions backed by facts.

IMHO we are more likely to find lower life forms and never see any other self realizing life in our evolutionary window.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
i dont find this can be true in any sense.

for someone to visit, not drones. One would have to pretty much master space and time to a level that would flat dictate high intellegence.

remember, we still are very primitive
They could still potentially be obnoxious or worse even though they have the capability for advanced space travel.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
So far geologists, astronomers, and other scientists have been able to crush down the eager claims that meteorites or methane production on Mars carry the patterns of bacterial life.
either way. it wont matter that much. what serious men in position of influence should be more concerned about is which resources to harness from the Red Planet.
The discussion of wind turbines on Mars has been raging for some decent amount of years now, especially during Mars' strong dust storms which last several months.
Nuclear and Solar energy sources are also being studied by the major space agencies.

they have not been able to crush the latest findings about to come out. I know the electron microscope photos your talking about. Thats old news.

I will state we need to harness our own earths powers before we try and harness another planet. There is plenty here to play with. tides, winds, solar , ect ect
 
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