Primordial Annihilator
Well-Known Member
Wisdom...
Experience...
Knowledge...
Experience...
Knowledge...
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Question for Theists
- Thread starter jarofthoughts
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jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Well, thus far you've called me "young", apparently in a derogatory manner, as well as ignorant.
I'm not sure how that adds to your argument.
Primordial Annihilator
Well-Known Member
Well, thus far you've called me "young", apparently in a derogatory manner, as well as ignorant.
I'm not sure how that adds to your argument.
Apparently in a derogatory manner?
I am not sure why you choose to interpret it so if you are so proverbially thick skinned....
If you can't handle the fact that older people will have more experience than younger people on the whole, well thats your problem...not mine.
You see...just because someone says something you don't like it doesn't mean it is invalid or untrue.
ashes_to_ashes
Non-religious Theist
I will answer your question with another question:
If god did exist, would you as an atheist not want god to exist?
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Because it was; 1. an unsubstantiated claim, seeing as you do not know how old I am, and; 2. because the way you said it indicated that you think younger people are somehow dumber/less wise than those who have lived longer. This is derogatory and also a Non sequitur.
Age is, in my experience, a poor indicator for wisdom. I've met brilliant people at the age of 18 and I've met complete morons at the age of 60.
True. So I hope the above comments justify the call I made on your comment.
Age is, in my experience, a poor indicator for wisdom. I've met brilliant people at the age of 18 and I've met complete morons at the age of 60.
I fully agree. There are people of 80, who being fully made of ego, have never had the occassion to enquire and find that the ego did not create the life and intelligence with which he props up the ego. On the other hand, a young lad of 18 may question the reality of ego and delve deeper.
But the above instances are exceptions. Usually age tends to burden the ego so much that vital questions are automatically asked. Until then ...
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Primordial Annihilator
Well-Known Member
I don't care how old you are JOT you just come across as a younger more naive person...you may well not be...you may be an old naive person...as you say they do exist.
Derogatory...LOL
Sue me...
Really is that so?
Fascinating....
I meet complete morons of all ages too JOT and there is no fool like an old fool...however
what you are pathologically incapable of grasping (like most things I have discussed with you so far) is that age brings experience...whatever you try to argue otherwise is simply irrelevant blather which is of course irritating.
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Primordial Annihilator
Well-Known Member
True. So I hope the above comments justify the call I made on your comment.
Everything you have said on this thread so far I have almost completely disagreed with...and found a lot of it highly pompous ignorant and insulting..If I could give you negative frubals I would.
You may cry that I am being derogatory now... xxx
Danmac
Well-Known Member
If you do a little word study you will find that the word "unicorn" translates to "rhinocerotis", and "dragon" to crocodile or alligator.
Santa and the easter bunny are taught as real to young children, but not with the thought that that belief will be carried out thru ones adulthood. God on the other hand is.
I think the Jewish race proves that God exists.
If one does an honest and thorough search for God, he or she will not come up empty handed.
Had you done a study your faith would not be blindOr, I am unwilling to accept something based on blind faith.
Which is always a good idea.
When the supposed scientific evidence for god arrives I'm sure someone will let me know.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Nah. I'll stick with pointing out that this kind of childish name-calling is pathetic and does not in any way constitute an argument. If anything it is a sign that you do not, in fact, have any valid arguments.
Well, some people can understand a lot with very little experience and for some people all the experience in the world is not enough.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
So, instead of actually presenting valid arguments you would prefer to punish those that disagree with you?
Interesting. :sarcastic
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Depends on what version of the bible one uses, but like I said, this is essentially irrelevant.
And how, exactly, do you justify that one mythological creature is considered real, while another is not?
Show me the evidence to support your case please.
Really? And what is the logic behind that notion?
Ah. The True Scotsman fallacy again.
Amazing how often we run into that on these forums...
Oh, I've studied about as much as I can be bothered.
Problem is, there is, in fact, no evidence to support the existence of a god.
And therefore there is no reason to think one exists.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
What does it mean, exactly, to be a "spiritual person"? :sarcastic
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
In the big scheme of things? Hardly. I don't have such delusions of grandeur.
Physics and Evolution.
Next.
To live and to learn and to teach and to die.
That's just me personally though.
Everyone should find their own purpose imo...
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Well, I love learning new things so there is that.
Also, I am a teacher and I love my job.
Just seems like the proper cycle of things.
I learn things that I can then teach to my pupils, and perhaps one day they will teach others about the things they have learned, and so the cycle begins anew.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
jarofthoughts said:Well, I love learning new things so there is that.
Also, I am a teacher and I love my job.
Just seems like the proper cycle of things.
I learn things that I can then teach to my pupils, and perhaps one day they will teach others about the things they have learned, and so the cycle begins anew.
Ah, i see.
Well, given a non religious view on life i would say that life is devoid of purpose, so we can give whatever meaning to it that we want.
When i made you that question i wanted to know if your purposes were based on a duty of the sorts or rather on your likings. As i understood it, your case seems to be more inclined towards the latter, and i agree with you on that. Everyone should give their lives a purpose based on their likings.