God and Addiction

Malus 12:9 · Sep 15, 2005

From my other thread about choosing a religion.

Can God/HaShem/Allah really help a person fight and stop an addiction? Isn't it up to the mind of the individual to do it? If any god can help, how can he/she/it hlp? What can they do?

TashaN · Sep 15, 2005

I believe that faith can stop addiction by the power of God.

Allah said in Quran ( the translation of it ):"Recite what is sent of the Book by inspiration to thee, and establish regular Prayer: for Prayer restrains from shameful and unjust deeds; and remembrance of Allah is the greatest (thing in life) without doubt. And Allah knows the (deeds) that ye do". ( 29:45 ).

jewscout · Sep 15, 2005

i do believe that through faith and prayer G-d can help us w/ any problem, including addiction, but we must do our part too

Malus 12:9 · Sep 15, 2005

But when the person prays and puts their faith in their God, shouldn't they be focusing the faith more on themselves during the "giving up period"

michel · Sep 15, 2005

Well, I have given up two addictions, and I don't know if God intervened, because I didn't ask for help. I don't 'like' asking God for things that I ought to be able to accomplish myself; the only thing I have ever asked God for has been for guidance, and inspiration.

Are you trying to give something up ? - The one key feature is that you must make your mind up that you actually want to give up. That's the key, as far as I am concerned. If you are trying, good luck.

jewscout · Sep 15, 2005

Malus01 said:
But when the person prays and puts their faith in their God, shouldn't they be focusing the faith more on themselves during the "giving up period"

i think that for someone of faith that should be part of any rehabilitation process...you can gain great strength through your faith.

Malus 12:9 · Sep 15, 2005

So the more difficult something is to quit, the more faith needed?

jewscout · Sep 15, 2005

Malus01 said:
So the more difficult something is to quit, the more faith needed?

well, i mean fighting an addiction is different for everyone...it just depends on your specific needs

for those with a spiritual background, that might be what helps motivate them...for others it could be something else

TashaN · Sep 15, 2005

Malus01 said:
So the more difficult something is to quit, the more faith needed?

in general you have to believe in God but at the same time you have to go to any hospital to help you out in it because faith will help you out again so you don't involve in addiction again.

Darkdale · Sep 15, 2005

Malus01 said:
Can God/HaShem/Allah really help a person fight and stop an addiction? Isn't it up to the mind of the individual to do it? If any god can help, how can he/she/it hlp? What can they do?

In my experience, the gods and ancestors offer us aid; courage, willpower, confidence, endurance. Prayer and reflection seem to help people get over their vices and to make the inner changes they need to make.

Original Freak · Sep 15, 2005

Well it's been a while since I posted...

I think god can help the same way family and friends can help. Basically it can give a person a reason to persue something they want to achieve or quite. A person can acheive some amazing things if they truly want to or truly believe in something. If I was willing to dedicate my life to a god 100% and that god said don't do [insert vice here] then I would do my best to quite.

So in closing...I don't think it's god at all, but the power of the individuals mind, who uses god as a backbone for their reasoning.

Jaymes · Sep 15, 2005

In some instances one addiction just replaces another... instead of doing drugs or drinking people become rabidly involved in their religious group.

Fire Empire · Sep 15, 2005

Jensa said:
In some instances one addiction just replaces another... instead of doing drugs or drinking people become rabidly involved in their religious group.

Oooo...that's a good one! We agree, to many God/religion is an addiction in itself.
So what would someone turn to in order to get over his/her god addiction?

Original Freak said:
I don't think it's god at all, but the power of the individuals mind, who uses god as a backbone for their reasoning.

Right, religion may provide the motivation or imagined reason for an individual to act in his/her own self interest.

Jaymes · Sep 15, 2005

Fire Empire: I don't see it as a bad thing if someone is 'addicted' to a god or religion as long as it doesn't keep them from their loved ones

michel · Sep 15, 2005

Jensa said:
In some instances one addiction just replaces another... instead of doing drugs or drinking people become rabidly involved in their religious group.

That makes sense, Jensa, and I am sure it does happen.

I would say, though (and this isn't aimed at you, Jensa), that as with most 'decisions' we have to make choices in life. Some choices are harder than others, and adictions are one such. Religion, as every other facet of life, is a discipline; disciplines have to be worked at to work.

Jaymes · Sep 15, 2005

michel said:
Religion, as every other facet of life, is a discipline; disciplines have to be worked at to work.

Good point! Frubals to ya.

Malus 12:9 · Sep 15, 2005

Since Jensa and Michel have both commented together, I doubt I can add to that or make people see otherwise.

Dayv · Sep 16, 2005

well, i've heard acual statistics that may put a more real spin on this. Alcoholics Anonymous is a religion based 'solution.' It largely uses religion ('accepting a higher power') as a 'cure' for alcoholics. Statistics show that after 6 months about 5% of people in AA were 'cured,' and as for those that are not in AA? 5%

Malus 12:9 · Sep 16, 2005

One of my randomnesses: Is it true that some religious people (probably mostly Christians) believe
that Satan is the one luring us to get addicted?

michel · Sep 16, 2005

Malus01 said:
One of my randomnesses: Is it true that some religious people (probably mostly Christians) believe
that Satan is the one luring us to get addicted?

Some religious people ? How should I know; me - I don't believe that.

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