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Evolution Vs. Creationism

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Gloone

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then show us exacxtly how it kicks the legs because i dont see it.

You can fight and squirm all you like but ToE is solid with evidence based on facts.

facts you can only deny because of your lack of education in science as a whole
It is an unnatural study of nature. I have been running circles around this debate topic. I have already given a lot of examples against evolution, it isn’t my problem other people have a hard time understanding them. I can’t make people use their brains. That is something they have to do on their own.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
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It is NOT NORMAL OR NATURAL! How many people pour their chemicals in ponds to create new bacteria today? Not many because they know some of the problems it can cause for the environment like create new bacteria tha can kill or poison plant life and fish or cause them diseases. Nothing natural about dumping chemicals in a pond and watching it kill everything and grow new bacteria.

Well, no one is proposing that those bacteria were created in a lab - and if they were, it wouldn't be by simply mixing chemicals in vessels.

That said - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/science/21cell.html

You should realize that while new bacteria may indeed be hazardous, so can existing ones. Growing bacteria is not only "normal and natural", it happens all the time in literally every rotting piece of fruit, meat or vegetable in kitchens and garbage cans all the world over.
 
Example of change or change in genetics that isn’t related to the theory of evolution is someone using steroids. It can change people’s facial features, bones structure and stunt people’s growth, including a long list of other things. Has nothing to do with ToE, artificial selection or natural selection.

True, since acquired characteristics aren't hereditary and thus not subject to natural selection.

So?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
It is an unnatural study of nature. I have been running circles around this debate topic. I have already given a lot of examples against evolution, it isn’t my problem other people have a hard time understanding them. I can’t make people use their brains. That is something they have to do on their own.

It is the study of biology nothing less

you have been running in circles sadly chasing your own tale

you have not givin one example that goes against ToE with any credibility

you should take a spoonfull of your own advise
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
It is NOT NORMAL OR NATURAL! How many people pour their chemicals in ponds to create new bacteria today? Not many because they know some of the problems it can cause for the environment like create new bacteria tha can kill or poison plant life and fish or cause them diseases. Nothing natural about dumping chemicals in a pond and watching it kill everything and grow new bacteria.

It didn't kill anything and it didn't grow new bacteria. What happened was, a new form of bacteria evolved that was able to eat the nylon. It didn't have to be nylon, a man-made substance. It could have been sulfur, as forms of bacteria that can eat sulfur have also evolved. What's neat about the fact that it's synthetic is that it allows us to know for certain this must be a new form of bacteria, as before 1930 there was no such thing as nylon. But the process is the exact same, regardless of whether it's nylon or sulfur.
 

Autodidact

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Data a lot of people must have a hard time understanding.

Example of change or change in genetics that isn’t related to the theory of evolution is someone using steroids. It can change people’s facial features, bones structure and stunt people’s growth, including a long list of other things. Has nothing to do with ToE, artificial selection or natural selection.

Yes, so why did you bring it up? *is confused by this*
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
It is an unnatural study of nature.

What is?

I have been running circles around this debate topic.
That is only because you do not want to learn.

I have already given a lot of examples against evolution,
No, you haven't.

it isn’t my problem other people have a hard time understanding them.
Understanding what?
I understand you refuse to learn about evolution.
As to why, I can only guess.

I can’t make people use their brains. That is something they have to do on their own.
Perhaps if you learned to use your own first....
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Dallas,

Just study genetics, natural environments, and artificial selection and you can totally obliterate the theory of evolution. It is like kicking the legs right out from underneath the theory itself.

It is an unnatural study of nature. I have been running circles around this debate topic. I have already given a lot of examples against evolution, it isn’t my problem other people have a hard time understanding them. I can’t make people use their brains. That is something they have to do on their own.

I'm sorry, I missed those "examples against evolution." What are they? btw, someone should notify those Nobel people, if you've disproved one of the most important and well supported theories in the history of science.

Wait, aren't you the guy who thinks plants aren't alive?
 
Dallas,

You also might be interested in Francis Collins, a scientist, Christian, and former head of the Human Genome Project:
"As someone who's had the privilege of leading the human genome project, I've had the opportunity to study our own DNA instruction book at a level of detail that was never really possible before.



It's also now been possible to compare our DNA with that of many other species. The evidence supporting the idea that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is truly overwhelming.




I would not necessarily wish that to be so, as a Bible-believing Christian. But it is so. It does not serve faith well to try to deny that.

But I have no difficulty putting that together with what I believe as a Christian ...."
 

scitsofreaky

Active Member
Dallas,

Just study genetics, natural environments, and artificial selection and you can totally obliterate the theory of evolution. It is like kicking the legs right out from underneath the theory itself.
:spit: Holy crap I laughed so hard after reading this. You do realize that genetics is now pretty much the strong line of evidence for evolution, right? Probably not, which is why I am still laughing. Have you actually studied any of those yourself, Gloone? Once again, probably not. Perhaps you should take your own advice and then come back for this conversation.
 

David M

Well-Known Member
It is NOT NORMAL OR NATURAL! How many people pour their chemicals in ponds to create new bacteria today?

No one, and they didn't do it when this bacteria evolved.

The bacteria evolved naturally and normally in a way that enabled them to take advantage of new food sources in their environment.

Example of change or change in genetics that isn’t related to the theory of evolution is someone using steroids. It can change people’s facial features, bones structure and stunt people’s growth, including a long list of other things. Has nothing to do with ToE, artificial selection or natural selection.

Differences in diet while growing can do this, so what? But where is your evidence that a) steroids change DNA and b) that steroid use produces such changes that are inherited in offspring not exposed to steroids themselves.
 
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Gloone

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No one, and they didn't do it when this bacteria evolved.
The bacteria evolved naturally and normally in a way that enabled them to take advantage of new food sources in their environment.
Well I am sorry, I am just not impressed.
Differences in diet while growing can do this, so what? But where is your evidence that a) steroids change DNA and b) that steroid use produces such changes that are inherited in offspring not exposed to steroids themselves.
Is genetics all about DNA? Last I checked it was also about somethings physical makeup.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
It is an unnatural study of nature. I have been running circles around this debate topic. I have already given a lot of examples against evolution, it isn’t my problem other people have a hard time understanding them. I can’t make people use their brains. That is something they have to do on their own.

You were defeated using the observable evidence for (Nylon Eating Bacteria).
 

Gloone

Well-Known Member
It is the study of biology nothing less

you have been running in circles sadly chasing your own tale

you have not givin one example that goes against ToE with any credibility

you should take a spoonfull of your own advise
Artificial selection was around way before Darwin. Why everyone is so blown away by animal breeding is really strange.
 
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