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You might be a Deist....

tumbleweed41

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
  1. You believe in God but are not accepting of the authoritarian creeds of any particular religion.
  2. You believe that God's word is the universe (nature), not human-written holy books.
  3. You like to reason or speculate what God might be like rather than be taught about it.
  4. You think that religious ideas should reconcile with and not contradict science.
  5. You believe God can be best found outside rather than inside a church building.
  6. You enjoy the freedom of seeking spirituality on your own.
  7. You are morally guided by ethics and conscience rather than by scriptures.
  8. You are an individual thinker whose religious beliefs are not formed from tradition or authority.
  9. You like to call yourself rational or spiritual before you call yourself religious.
  10. You believe that religion and government (church and state) should be separate.

Courtesy of Positive Deism
 
ellenjanuary

ellenjanuary

Well-Known Member
Thank you. ;)

For me, it was the Anthropic Principle which began my "conversion". I considered god kicked it off with a fistful of numbers, and now he's playing video games.
 
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Vansdad

Member
Excellent list and so very true for some of us. I'd like to add these two to your list, maybe some might also agree

And you believe that you can have a personal relationship with Him.
And you believe He is a living being in the here and now.
 
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Onkara

Well-Known Member
tumbleweed41 said:
  1. You believe that God's word is the universe (nature), not human-written holy books.
  2. You believe God can be best found outside rather than inside a church building.

Courtesy of Positive Deism
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It seems God has limits from reading the above and humans can act contrarily and be separate from God, is that always so in Deism?
 
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conrad beckman

Member
I would like to call myself a Deist except that all Deists that I've read believe that God doesn't take an active role in our lives. Who of us, using reason and recounting past experiences, has not, at some time, experienced an event which tells us otherwise?

Do you know of a belief that encompasses all the Diest principles, but is convinced that there is Divine Intervention ?
 
tumbleweed41

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Onkara said:
It seems God has limits from reading the above and humans can act contrarily and be separate from God, is that always so in Deism?
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It is true of many deistic beliefs, however, there are many "flavors" of Deism.
Pandeism, Panendeism, Christian Deism, and Polydeism are all differing varieties of Deism, but the basic attribute of Deism is that we do not adhere to dogmatic texts or symbolism. Nor is it generally accepted that God, or a supreme being, reveals himself to certain individuals, cultures or religions, nor does he maintain a personal relationship with people.
 
tumbleweed41

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Vansdad said:
Excellent list and so very true for some of us. I'd like to add these two to your list, maybe some might also agree

And you believe that you can have a personal relationship with Him.
And you believe He is a living being in the here and now.
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conrad beckman said:
I would like to call myself a Deist except that all Deists that I've read believe that God doesn't take an active role in our lives. Who of us, using reason and recounting past experiences, has not, at some time, experienced an event which tells us otherwise?

Do you know of a belief that encompasses all the Diest principles, but is convinced that there is Divine Intervention ?
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These beliefs tend to drift more towards a Panentheistic view of God, or supreme being. Where God, being a part of our universe, is able to, and does, takes an active interest in the affairs of people.
More specifically, some Hinduism beliefs come pretty close to the description of a Deistic being that has relationships with man.
 
waitasec

waitasec

Veteran Member
tumbleweed41 said:
  1. You believe in God but are not accepting of the authoritarian creeds of any particular religion.
  2. You believe that God's word is the universe (nature), not human-written holy books.
  3. You like to reason or speculate what God might be like rather than be taught about it.
  4. You think that religious ideas should reconcile with and not contradict science.
  5. You believe God can be best found outside rather than inside a church building.
  6. You enjoy the freedom of seeking spirituality on your own.
  7. You are morally guided by ethics and conscience rather than by scriptures.
  8. You are an individual thinker whose religious beliefs are not formed from tradition or authority.
  9. You like to call yourself rational or spiritual before you call yourself religious.
  10. You believe that religion and government (church and state) should be separate.

Courtesy of Positive Deism
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this is very interesting to me, thank you for starting this thread :)
why is it that what i highlighted doesn't resonate, but the rest absolutely does?
as far as i can tell god=religion, maybe that's why i have a hard time accepting the ideal of a supreme being.
 
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Vansdad

Member
Vansdad said:
Excellent list and so very true for some of us. I'd like to add these two to your list, maybe some might also agree

And you believe that you can have a personal relationship with Him.
And you believe He is a living being in the here and now.
Click to expand...

conrad beckman said:
I would like to call myself a Deist except that all Deists that I've read believe that God doesn't take an active role in our lives. Who of us, using reason and recounting past experiences, has not, at some time, experienced an event which tells us otherwise?

Do you know of a belief that encompasses all the Diest principles, but is convinced that there is Divine Intervention ?
Click to expand...

tumbleweed41 said:
These beliefs tend to drift more towards a Panentheistic view of God, or supreme being. Where God, being a part of our universe, is able to, and does, takes an active interest in the affairs of people.
More specifically, some Hinduism beliefs come pretty close to the description of a Deistic being that has relationships with man.
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Sometimes it's too bad that there has to be labels instead of just believing what you believe without limits and rules.
 
Songbird

Songbird

She rules her life like a bird in flight
I think I'm a deist. Some days I wander into atheism, then hang out in agnosticism, then over to deistville again. And I'm drawn to gnosticism.
 
ellenjanuary

ellenjanuary

Well-Known Member
Songbird said:
I think I'm a deist. Some days I wander into atheism, then hang out in agnosticism, then over to deistville again. And I'm drawn to gnosticism.
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Ah, yer not a true deist; beat it. :biglaugh:

Myself; I'm more of a true atheist these days. What appeals, to me, about "organized deism" (if such a thing exists) is how one of those sites (I'm thinking deism.com) is "proactive with the atheism." I need some activity. :D
 
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