Homosexuals, should we accept them, are they really homosexual?

Autodidact said:

Meanwhile, the Girl Scouts, like most all-female organizations, is rife with lesbians, and the higher up you go in their administration, the more lesbians there are. They don't discriminate against anyone. In fact, diversity is one of their cornerstones. And they're a fine organization.

Moral: If you want to support scouting, give to the Girl Scouts.

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Somehow that doesnt really surprise me...

Actually you will probably find the same is true for Boy Scouts organisations...

Moral: Keep your kids away from Scout clubs.

Cynical I know but I have been to these kinds of places....as a kid.

Fortunately, only the American Boy Scouts and all Arab scouting organizations discriminate (against homosexuality). Don't keep your kids away from scouting, move to a less backward country where scouting is for all.

This gay man is a scoutmaster, for instance. And he doesn't have to hide his attraction to men at all.

Diederick said:

This gay man is a scoutmaster, for instance. And he doesn't have to hide his attraction to men at all.

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Fascinating.

I am British maybe your gay scout leaders are a different breed to ours...well my army cadet instuctor anyway took an unhealthy interest in me for a man of his age (I was 14 yrs) frightened the hell out of me.
Now he probably didnt mean to alarm me, in fact he was overly helpful and friendly, that was partly what was so alarming...and the creepy looks he used to throw me...not only that but he suffered from wandering hands as well...
I lasted three days before I decided I had had enough insidious sexual advances from the man.
That experience may have jaded me a bit...but I certainly know other people who have recounted similar stories to me.

Thought I would explain my earlier postings.

DallasApple said:

All I can say is I LOVE those coconut and chocohlate cookies..(with caramel)..I will buy like 5 boxes of those.. PLUS the SHORTBREAD ?????They make GOOD cookies!!!

Now I want girl scout cookies thanks a lot..

LOve

Dallas

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Lesbians + Thin Mints. What's not to love?

NeverGotBetter said:

At first this sounded ridiculous to me and that you had an agenda but I googled around and to my surprise, this IS true. In 2000, it was decided in the Supreme Court of the USA that practicing homosexuality interferes with the messages the Boy Scouts send, so Scoutmaster Dale was booted off.

I'd be with you in not giving them money for their discrimination. I knew they discriminated against atheists and certain religions but I didn't think they did this.

I cant post the URL to the story as I don't have enough posts so go to Wikipedia and it's there.

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I strive for accuracy, and accept correction when I'm in error.

Primordial Annihilator said:

Somehow that doesnt really surprise me...

Actually you will probably find the same is true for Boy Scouts organisations...

Moral: Keep your kids away from Scout clubs.

Cynical I know but I have been to these kinds of places....as a kid.

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Why would you want to keep your children away from lesbians?

Autodidact said:

Why would you want to keep your children away from lesbians?

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I do not trust the motives of anyone who wishes to work in a scout group.
I suspect that there is a strong likelyhood that they are a pedophile.

I don't particularly care about lesbians one way or another...they dont really figure in my life...they are of no use to me unless they are selling me something...if you think I have some problem with lesbians then you are barking up the wrong tree...would be pretty hypocritical of me if I did...

Primordial Annihilator said:

I do not trust the motives of anyone who wishes to work in a scout group.
I suspect that there is a strong likelyhood that they are a pedophile.

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It sounds like you are not familiar with the statistics on female homosexual pedophilia. It is so rare as to be virtually unheard of, and not something you need to worry about.

Of course, under your approach, there would be no scouting.

I don't particularly care about lesbians one way or another...they dont really figure in my life...they are of no use to me unless they are selling me something...if you think I have some problem with lesbians then you are barking up the wrong tree...would be pretty hypocritical of me if I did...

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Why are lesbians no use to you? Are the only two ways people are of use to you sex and selling you something? For example, you don't have any friends?

Autodidact said:

It sounds like you are not familiar with the statistics on female homosexual pedophilia. It is so rare as to be virtually unheard of, and not something you need to worry about.

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I dont pay much attention to statistics...they are largely unreliable.
I prefer experience as a guide.
Obviously I have never been assaulted sexually by a lesbian but I have been by a heterosexual woman.

Autodidact said:

Why are lesbians no use to you? Are the only two ways people are of use to you sex and selling you something? For example, you don't have any friends?

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I have my friends...(none of whom are lesbian as far as I know)...when I meet new people socially its usually on sexual terms.
Lesbians seldom are sexually interested in me...and those girls that were lesbian and seemed interested I guess must have been at least Bi....thus I dont waste valuable pulling time talking to strictly lesbian girls

Autodidact said:

It sounds like you are not familiar with the statistics on female homosexual pedophilia. It is so rare as to be virtually unheard of, and not something you need to worry about.

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Statistics are one thing, real life is quite another. You're right about one thing: it 'is' unheard of. Female pedophilia, or female abuse in general for that matter, is one of the least publicly reported incidents. My Psychology instructor told us (the class) some rather revealing details about the many incidents in his career in which husbands and children suffered emotional and physical abuse from mothers, wifes, girlfriends etc. but it remains largely unreported. Why? Because the victims are simply far too ashamed or embarrassed to talk about it. It's just not socially acceptable to tell someone that a female is hurting you in some way. It's far more prevalent than anyone imagines.

TurkeyOnRye said:

Statistics are one thing, real life is quite another. You're right about one thing: it 'is' unheard of. Female pedophilia, or female abuse in general for that matter, is one of the least publicly reported offenses. My Psychology instructor told his class about the many incidents in his career in which husbands and children suffered emotional and physical abuse from mothers, wifes etc. but it remains largely unreported. Why? Because the victims are simply far too ashamed to admit it or too embarrassed to talk about it. It's just not socially acceptable to tell someone that a female is hurting you in some way. It's far more prevalent than anyone imagines.

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Precisely...my mothers friend repeatedly (about 8 times) coerced me to preform sexual acts upon her when I was a kid (14-16)...I never reported it.

Never even kissed a woman for about 10 years after that...prefering men only.

Autodidact said:

Meanwhile, the Girl Scouts, like most all-female organizations, is rife with lesbians, and the higher up you go in their administration, the more lesbians there are. They don't discriminate against anyone. In fact, diversity is one of their cornerstones. And they're a fine organization.

Moral: If you want to support scouting, give to the Girl Scouts.

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I have a lot of respect for the Girl Scouts. A lot more than their BS...I mean, Boy Scouts counterpart. Which is sad, because boys and girls equally deserve an opportunity to succeed.

Primordial Annihilator said:

I do not trust the motives of anyone who wishes to work in a scout group.
I suspect that there is a strong likelyhood that they are a pedophile.

I don't particularly care about lesbians one way or another...they dont really figure in my life...they are of no use to me unless they are selling me something...if you think I have some problem with lesbians then you are barking up the wrong tree...would be pretty hypocritical of me if I did...

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Huh? When did become creepy to simply want to be an adult role model for young people?

Primordial Annihilator said:

Precisely...my mothers friend repeatedly (about 8 times) coerced me to preform sexual acts upon her when I was a kid (14-16)...I never reported it.

Never even kissed a woman for about 10 years after that...prefering men only.

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Holy...

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:

Huh? When did become creepy to simply want to be an adult role model for young people?

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Creepy is the word.

Its just not right...its weird...too remotely alien for me a concept to think I could be a role model for kids I guess!...I cant identify with it.
Plus of course I am just too much of a cynic perhaps.

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:

Holy...

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Relax guy...I was bi anyway...I was a bit young for an older woman to be so predatory.
I was a bit scared of women for a while...subconciously, because I would automatically reject advances from girls even if I did like them.
All fine now...human nature...I have met men who tried exactly the same thing when I have been vulnerable...so it isnt just women by a long long shot.

Primordial Annihilator said:

I dont pay much attention to statistics...they are largely unreliable.
I prefer experience as a guide.

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There's your first problem.

Obviously I have never been assaulted sexually by a lesbian but I have been by a heterosexual woman.

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A straight woman assaulted you, so little girls should not join the girl scouts. That makes sense.

I have my friends...(none of whom are lesbian as far as I know).

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There's your second problem.

..when I meet new people socially its usually on sexual terms.

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And there's number 3.

Lesbians seldom are sexually interested in me...and those girls that were lesbian and seemed interested I guess must have been at least Bi....thus I dont waste valuable pulling time talking to strictly lesbian girls

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Your loss.

TurkeyOnRye said:

Statistics are one thing, real life is quite another. You're right about one thing: it 'is' unheard of. Female pedophilia, or female abuse in general for that matter, is one of the least publicly reported incidents. My Psychology instructor told us (the class) some rather revealing details about the many incidents in his career in which husbands and children suffered emotional and physical abuse from mothers, wifes, girlfriends etc. but it remains largely unreported. Why? Because the victims are simply far too ashamed or embarrassed to talk about it. It's just not socially acceptable to tell someone that a female is hurting you in some way. It's far more prevalent than anyone imagines.

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So you're trying to persuade us that millions of adult women are sexually assaulting little girls, but it's being hushed up? That's your assertion?

Ever notice how little Catholic children are bringing lawsuits against sexual abuse by nuns?

Autodidact said:

So you're trying to persuade us that millions of adult women are sexually assaulting little girls, but it's being hushed up? That's your assertion?

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No. I'm saying that statistics aren't very good at telling the truth, and that a larger number than we think of adult women are abusing people.

As a side point, if a person feels uncomfortable by a group, they shouldn't have to feel guilty or wrong for simply wanting to avoid them.

autodidact said:

Ever notice how little Catholic children are bringing lawsuits against sexual abuse by nuns?

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I would congratulate them for their bravery. I wish the rest had the courage to do the same.

Statistics gathered from anecdotal reports mean nothing to me...and it is no problem for me to dismiss most of them as highly unscientific.

Autodidact said:

A straight woman assaulted you, so little girls should not join the girl scouts. That makes sense.

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Thats right...because although she was straight she could easily have been gay and me a girl...or are you saying lesbians are not as susceptible to pedophilia as hetero women?
A statement I could never believe in 1000 years.

Autodidact said:

And there's number 3.

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My friends are mostly bisexual...so dont get the wrong idea...its just straight (well macho chav) men and lesbians I have little time for, have little in common with.

Autodidact said:

Your loss.

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I am not rejecting anyone on the grounds of their sexuality...but I just seldom have anything in common with most lesbians other than a liking for females...I usually have nothing to say to them other than...can we use the pool table next?
Still I avoid straight males even more so, so dont imagine I am some kind of bigot.
If a lesbian wants to be my mate thats OK with me, in fact one of the herb dealers I know is a lesbian...we get on quite well...we chat about most things...but I find her very boyish girlfriend intimidating and macho...she doesnt like me (how is that possible? everyone likes me), I think she thinks I am after her gf...which is ridiculous as I have a bf anyway (and he is far prettier in my opinion)
I will have to drag him around their home one day and snog him passionately in front of her...that might cool her boots.

Primordial Annihilator said:

I do not trust the motives of anyone who wishes to work in a scout group.
I suspect that there is a strong likelyhood that they are a pedophile.

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In the Netherlands we have a pretty decent system to prevent paedophiles from entering scout groups: people who enter scouting from 'the outside' have to present a clean slate for 'good behaviour', so avoiding offenders to enter the group. Scouting Netherlands, the national organization of scouting in the Netherlands, also keeps up a list of people who were kicked out of other scouting groups, to prevent them from casually entering another or starting up their own.

Homosexuals are statistically less likely to assault a child, so just to make sure I'd like to state that it is incorrect to be extra cautious with putting a homosexual adult in a group of children.

Diederick said:

In the Netherlands we have a pretty decent system to prevent paedophiles from entering scout groups: people who enter scouting from 'the outside' have to present a clean slate for 'good behaviour', so avoiding offenders to enter the group. Scouting Netherlands, the national organization of scouting in the Netherlands, also keeps up a list of people who were kicked out of other scouting groups, to prevent them from casually entering another or starting up their own.

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My father (a british police officer) has always maintained and I completely agree that a clean record is not proof of innocence...it is merely proof that the person has as yet not been caught doing wrong.
In fact I prefer to employ people with criminal records...(as long as its nothing uber serious)..then I can know what kind of person I am dealing with...those with clean slates are uncertainities.

Primordial Annihilator said:

My father (a british police officer) has always maintained and I completely agree that a clean record is not proof of innocence...it is merely proof that the person has as yet not been caught doing wrong.
In fact I prefer to employ people with criminal records...(as long as its nothing uber serious)..then I can know what kind of person I am dealing with...those with clean slates are uncertainities.

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Fair enough, though I'd say hiring criminals to be sure they're not the 'wrong kind of criminal' isn't quite the way to do it either. People just need to keep an eye out and report suspicious activity.