sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Is this extradition the Swedes are after ultimately about the US getting their hands on Assange?
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Julian Assange - What's it about?
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Troublemane
Well-Known Member
oh YEAH. without a doubt. A swedish authority person said on BBC the other day that if he was extradited to Sweden they would extradite him elsewhere, if anyone else wants him, wink wink.
Besides that, there is talk that Sweden never moves this quickly on ANYTHING. it is purportely quite a surprise how fast this moved through the courts. When asked why, a lawyer in the UK said it was "our big brother in the west". So, yeah, I think the US is putting pressure on Sweden to go after Assange, and then when he is in custody give him a stern water-boarding. :trampo:
Besides that, there is talk that Sweden never moves this quickly on ANYTHING. it is purportely quite a surprise how fast this moved through the courts. When asked why, a lawyer in the UK said it was "our big brother in the west". So, yeah, I think the US is putting pressure on Sweden to go after Assange, and then when he is in custody give him a stern water-boarding. :trampo:
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
It would be easier for the USA to extradite him from the UK.
However the arrangements we have, are so one sided in favour of the USA, that It creates a political stink every time they are used.
However the arrangements we have, are so one sided in favour of the USA, that It creates a political stink every time they are used.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
I heard someone say on the radio this morning that what he's accused of is not illegal in the UK or Ireland and that what constitutes a sex crime in Sweden is far broader than here.
Sounds very fishy to me.
Diederick
Active Member
It really astounds me how European countries still feel like the USA has some great power over them and they need to abide every request that is made by it. Personally I think the US has much to learn from European countries, such as Sweden and Norway.
And on the issue, I think governments need to be far more transparent to their people. It goes without saying that tactical military data and personal information has to remain secret, but I don't believe such information was among the documents Assange made public. Frankly, I think he was doing the world a favour. The government shouldn't have anything to hide from its own people.
And on the issue, I think governments need to be far more transparent to their people. It goes without saying that tactical military data and personal information has to remain secret, but I don't believe such information was among the documents Assange made public. Frankly, I think he was doing the world a favour. The government shouldn't have anything to hide from its own people.
Promise Europe several hundred billion dollars, & some monkeys will jump thru some hoops.
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yeah, didn't you hear? Amazon, MasterCard, Visa, PayPal, and Sweden are all in cahoots with the US.
Sweden has some law on the books that states that if a man has CONSENSUAL sex with a woman, but doesn't wear a condom, that's rape. I think that's a stretch. Assault, maybe, but not rape. But that's really beside the point.
To me, no pun intended, but the jury's still out on Assange. Personally, I think he's a real oddball, and he doesn't strike me as the stuff heroes are made of. Seems more like he gets off on some sense of power and mystery.
I think it's sort of funny, in a sad way, that he complained to his mother about not having internet access in jail - and that she put this out there as if it is a legitimate, and serious complaint. I think I'm starting to see where some of his oddities come from. But, hey, it's nice to see mom and son re connect after not communicating for years. Hell, the man doesn't even have an ADDRESS.
Something's rotten in Denmark. I mean Sweden.
Sweden has some law on the books that states that if a man has CONSENSUAL sex with a woman, but doesn't wear a condom, that's rape. I think that's a stretch. Assault, maybe, but not rape. But that's really beside the point.
To me, no pun intended, but the jury's still out on Assange. Personally, I think he's a real oddball, and he doesn't strike me as the stuff heroes are made of. Seems more like he gets off on some sense of power and mystery.
I think it's sort of funny, in a sad way, that he complained to his mother about not having internet access in jail - and that she put this out there as if it is a legitimate, and serious complaint. I think I'm starting to see where some of his oddities come from. But, hey, it's nice to see mom and son re connect after not communicating for years. Hell, the man doesn't even have an ADDRESS.
Something's rotten in Denmark. I mean Sweden.
It is an interesting approach to law & justice....to make seemingly ordinary things be severely prosecutable. This gives a great deal
of power to government. Were you to do anything they don't like, then something will be found as a pretext to put you in the slammer.
Sounds like a great way to keep the populace in line without their being any the wiser.
A hero is usually just some schlub who is in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Assange is the schlub de jour.
Sounds like the kind of person who would tend to have his likeness carved into a statue or SD cliff side.
One person's hero is another's scoundrel. And even all heros have some warts somewhere.
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Requia
Active Member
Extradition from the UK to the US has been known to take years.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Don't know, don't care. Too busy with more important things, like scratching my butt.
And juggle at the same time
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Not if you use the new powers ,introduced to move terrorists.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Proof, if it were needed, that not all information should be in the public domain.
Alceste
Vagabond
The US has the little problem that Assange hasn't broken any laws, unless they want to claim that ALL investigative journalists are breaking the law.
Their objective is to erode wikileaks foundation of trust by smearing its administrators. It sure seems to have backfired.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Espionage seems to be the line.
I agree with you that it does seem to have backfired. I still wouldn't like to be him if they get their hands on him. A little matter like not having broken any laws won't be of much help I imagine.
Alceste
Vagabond
Yes, the 1917 Espionage Act, which basically criminalizes dissent, is the only law that could possibly apply. The problem is, once they apply it to investigative journalists they are in danger of alienating news organizations, which is political suicide.
Requia
Active Member
Current theory is that Manning will be 'convinced' to testify that Assange talked him into it in exchange for ending the indefinite solitary detention he's currently facing.
kai
ragamuffin
Is the US seeking extradition? has he been indicted? all i see is talk of "possible" US charges.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...k-from-his-british-media-partner-2164319.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...k-from-his-british-media-partner-2164319.html
Alceste
Vagabond
That's ludicrous. Why wouldn't he be a journalist?