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20 points which show evolution is not science

I see. So you're also cabinintheforest and casseterides and cassiterides ? You just basically spam this crap all over the internet then?

my only username is this one and cabin. cassiterides is my brother hes YEC and a well known debater on the internet. I agree with some of his opinions but we have completley different views for the most part.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
After that debate between PZ Myers and Simmons (MD), and my own person experience, I've come to not expect much from those who expound on their academic credentials and argue against evolution.
Makes sense to me.

Humorous anecdote time:
My father & I were arguing about an aspect of engineering some years back. At one point, he tried to argue from authority, telling me that he
had such & such a degree! I countered by saying that I had the same degree in the same field from the same university. Priceless moment.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Tell me, Miniboglins,

Why were you compelled to lie about your faith? It seems to me that you want us to think that because a Hindu believes in Creationism that it has more merit? And he uses AiG of all things?

And I suspect that the "Atheists believing Creationism" is the same type of charade?

Why not just be yourself and approach the matter honestly? Is there anything inside of you other than dishonesty?
 

The_Evelyonian

Old-School Member
I see. So you're also cabinintheforest and casseterides and cassiterides ? You just basically spam this crap all over the internet then?

my only username is this one and cabin. cassiterides is my brother hes YEC and a well known debater on the internet. I agree with some of his opinions but we have completley different views for the most part.

How much longer shall we play this game?
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
I see. So you're also cabinintheforest and casseterides and cassiterides ? You just basically spam this crap all over the internet then?

my only username is this one and cabin. cassiterides is my brother hes YEC and a well known debater on the internet. I agree with some of his opinions but we have completley different views for the most part.

Yeah, which ones? You're a Christian and he's a Christian?
 
He's a Christian as cabinintheforest

I have openly admitted i am a hindu on agnostic forums read over my thread at the bottom man has been on earth for billions of years. As mentioned cassiterides is my older brother he has been on many forums, hes a YEC. I do not hold those views. But he has written some good articles.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
I have openly admitted i am a hindu on agnostic forums read over my thread at the bottom man has been on earth for billions of years. As mentioned cassiterides is my older brother he has been on many forums, hes a YEC. I do not hold those views. But he has written some good articles.

Whatever. You admitted that you were cabinintheforest, who is a Christian.

Your credibility is completely lost. Best to fess up, correct yourself, and move on.

This, by the way, is your last post on that thread:

I couldn't tell you. I wasn't there and the Bible does not specify. How do so many millions co-exist today...especially when we see the mankind occupies much, much more of the world today than even 1000 years ago?

Do you have to "picture" something to believe it? Christians are to walk by faith, not by sight.
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
The very unfortunate thing is that we've never seen a creationist who wasn't either incompetent, a liar, or a fraud and you've only reinforced that image. Congrats.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
20 points which show evolution is not science

Hello, i am a Hindu and i support creationism i do not believe in evolution. I have read over many evolutionist books, articles and websites from the internet and did you know evolutionists are actually their own worst enemy? I quote here mainly evolutionists who admit themselves evolution is not science.

Evolution has never been observed

You need to get a "real" understanding as to what the TOE says.

Start with this basic...and I mean really basic one....

An introduction to evolution

Spend some time on that to get the basics.

Try this one out...
Influenza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
April 2009 a novel flu strain evolved that combined genes from human, pig, and bird flu, initially dubbed "swine flu" and also known as influenza A/H1N1, emerged in Mexico, the United States, and several other nations.

For kicks check him out. Not only is he a theist (Catholic) but a respected biologist giving an example of how we know evolution to be science and testable....
[youtube]zi8FfMBYCkk[/youtube]
YouTube - Ken Miller on Human Evolution
 
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The very unfortunate thing is that we've never seen a creationist who wasn't either incompetent, a liar, or a fraud and you've only reinforced that image. Congrats.

if you want to ban me go ahead and ban me. but it will be on your conscience not mine, becuase i have done nothing wrong, i am not my brother i do not know about any of those names you listed my brother would not of made any of those anyway except the cass account, those account names were silly i doubt anyone would create names like that. i am a uni student studying botany my life is in nature, evolution is not observable. you can probably tell this by my IP i am at a flower shows library in london write now. i am not interested in this anymore, if you want to pin lies on me that is up to you. But i am not cass, i am not a yec or a christian i am a hindu. I did not come here to argue, i came for a honest debate. if u want to pin lies onto me and my family to get me banend just becuase i am a creationist then that is up to u.as mentioned on agnostic forum i hardly can get to a computer only once every 1week if that or if im lucky on my friends laptop. if u wish to ban go ahead. my life is in nature. i have to go now anyway. if u ban me, then so be it. i leave with a pure conscience. and if anyone has indluged in dishonesty then it truely is down to the misunderstanding and false allegations that you have made, it does not help that i used the same article as my brother but oh well it was an article a good one which he wrote, truth is i am not my brother, that is the complete truth. i have nothing further to say here. go ahead and ban and delete my threads that would be easier instead of lies left up here that are untrue about me.byebye
 
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Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
. im just a botanist student i spend my life doing field studies and observational research.
i spend my life in nature.

i am actually out there all day studying nature my opinions are much more valid becuase

i experience nature i directly observe nature everyday..

i have been doing field research on my course now for 4 years... been round 100s of ecosystems and habitats...

i have not observed evolution once.. evolution is not directly observable... becuase i study plant science i am interested in direct observation in this field. and evolution simply can not be observed.

I suggest you really get your stuff together because these folks here will smack you down if you told them you are a botanist and don't support the theory of evolution.

Statement on Evolution, Botanical Society of America
"Evolution represents one of the broadest, most inclusive theories used in pursuit of and in teaching this knowledge, but it is by no means the only theory involved. Scientific theories are used in two ways: to explain what we know, and to pursue new knowledge. Evolution explains observations of shared characteristics (the result of common ancestry and descent with modification) and adaptations (the result of natural selection acting to maximize reproductive success), as well as explaining pollen-ovule ratios, weeds, deceptive pollination strategies, differences in sexual expression, dioecy, and a myriad of other biological phenomena. Far from being merely a speculative notion, as implied when someone says, “evolution is just a theory,” the core concepts of evolution are well documented and well confirmed. Natural selection has been repeatedly demonstrated in both field and laboratory, and descent with modification is so well documented that scientists are justified in saying that evolution is true.



Some people contend that creationism and its surrogate, “intelligent design,” offers an alternative explanation: that organisms are well adapted and have common characteristics because they were created just so, and they exhibit the hallmarks of intelligent design. As such, creationism is an all inclusive explanation for every biological phenomenon. So why do we support and teach evolution and not creationism/“intelligent design” if both explain the same phenomena? Are botanists just dogmatic, atheistic materialists, as some critics of science imply? Hardly, although scientists are routinely portrayed by creationists as dogmatic. We are asked, “Why, in all fairness, don’t we teach both explanations and let students decide?”
 
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ninerbuff

godless wonder
well its not spam. me and my brother wrote this article. unlike evolutionists who just copy and paste from talk origins, i actually write all my own stuff.. so atleast give some credit.
If you wrote the article, you would have written "my brother and I" for correct grammar...:rolleyes:
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Evolution has never been observed
Lie... Overview of the E. coli long-term evolution experiment

2. Evolution relies upon non-observable time periods
Lie... Overview of the E. coli long-term evolution experiment
3. Evolutionists do not know how to define a species
So what? If species never evolve then defining a species should be easy.
4. Speciation has never been observed
Lie... Insect From the Underground | Natural History | Find Articles at BNET
5. Evolutionists do not know what started evolution
So what? It still happens no matter how it started. Plus your quote is a lie.. http://genetics.mgh.harvard.edu/szostakweb/publications/Szostak_pdfs/Budin_Ann_Rev_BP_2010.pdf
6. No fossil evidence for evolution exists
Lie...
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7. Evolution fails to meet the requirements for the scientific method
Lie... Overview of the E. coli long-term evolution experiment
8. Evolutionists don’t know the origin of species
Lie... Insect From the Underground | Natural History | Find Articles at BNET

9. The theory of evolution does not even qualify as science
Lie...Overview of the E. coli long-term evolution experiment

10. Evolution is based on assumptions, guesses and inferences not facts
Lie... see above.
11. Evolution is a mathematical impossibility
Lie..
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12. Mutations do not cause evolution
weirdly incomplete and a lie... http://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/overview.htmlNo one claims that mutation alone causes evolution.
13. No Evidence for common descent from similarities
Lie... http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosi...ciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/313/5795/1918
14. Vestigial Organs do not prove evolution
Silly and weird...
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Soo...useful.... so useful not all whale species even have them.
15. Evolutionists can only interpret fossils
Oh Noes! you can only interpret scripture... ;)
Plus the quotes... lies...
ArchaeopteryxFossil.jpg

16. Evolutionists create frauds because they have no evidence
Actually they are discovered by "evolutionists" to be frauds and gotten rid of. They are no where near in number to creationist frauds that are still held up as gospel despite being proven fake. Creationist Frauds
Searches for Noah's Ark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Creationist Anti-Evolution Fraud Exposed at Dinosaur Valley Texas
Archaeology Magazine - Hoaxes, Fakes, and Strange Sites
17. Many missing links
Sillyness... Archeopteryx -> Bird= Oh Noes a missing link!... Archeopteryx -> Confuciusornis -> Bird = Oh Noes Two Missing Links!
Plesiadapiformes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Synapsid Classification & Apomorphies
In particular critters like Tetraceratops
Fish to Amphibian Transition
Acanthodii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18. Gaps in the fossil record
See above
19. Evolutionist reconstructions are dishonest
I don't know of any reconstructions done on single teeth. This "problem" is dishonest. Surprise :rolleyes:

20. Evolution is pure faith
Bwahahaha :biglaugh:

wa:do
 
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