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Easy way to prove the Earth is at least a million years old

DarkSun

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But aren't cro-magnons us?

Not according to our Instruction Manual :)

what instruction manual?

B.I.B.L.E (BASIC iNSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH) :)

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You must have missed post #144 on page 15 of this thread. And if you did read it, you are simply choosing to ignore the powerful evidence.

You mean this?

My apologies, I misunderstood. Lets pick up where I left off.

The geneologies in Genesis 5 and 7:1 show that a period of 1,656 years transpired between the creation of Adam and the Flood of Noah's day.(Note: Genesis 5:3 shows that Adam was 130 when Seth was born. Add up the age of each patriarch at the birth of his son, plus the age of Noah at the time of the Flood; Genesis 7:11),

Genesis:5
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:
7 And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters:
8 And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
9 And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan:
10 And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters:
11 And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
12 And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel:
13 And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters:
14 And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
15 And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and begat Jared:
16 And Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters:
17 And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
18 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:
19 And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
20 And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.
21 And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
25 And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech:
26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:
27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.

Genesis 7
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Genesis 11:10-32 show that 427 years passed between the Flood and the death of Terah, which was the time that Abram left Haran (cf. Acts 7:4) He was 75 years of age (Genesis 12:4).

Notice Genesis:11
10 These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood:
11 And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.
12 And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah:
13 And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
14 And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber:
15 And Salah lived after he begat Eber four hundred and three years, and begat sons and daughters.
16 And Eber lived four and thirty years, and begat Peleg:
17 And Eber lived after he begat Peleg four hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters.
18 And Peleg lived thirty years, and begat Reu:
19 And Peleg lived after he begat Reu two hundred and nine years, and begat sons and daughters.
20 And Reu lived two and thirty years, and begat Serug:
21 And Reu lived after he begat Serug two hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters.
22 And Serug lived thirty years, and begat Nahor:
23 And Serug lived after he begat Nahor two hundred years, and begat sons and daughters.
24 And Nahor lived nine and twenty years, and begat Terah:
25 And Nahor lived after he begat Terah an hundred and nineteen years, and begat sons and daughters.
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
27 Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot.
28 And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees.
29 And Abram and Nahor took them wives: the name of Abram's wife was Sarai; and the name of Nahor's wife, Milcah, the
daughter of Haran, the father of Milcah, and the father of Iscah.
30 But Sarai was barren; she had no child.
31 And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's
wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.
32 And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.

Genesis:12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.

Acts:7
4 Then came he out of the land of the Chaldaeans, and dwelt in Charran: and from thence, when his father was dead, he removed him into this land, wherein ye now dwell.

Whew!!! Hope your still with me :) Continuing on, Abraham was 99 years old when God made the covenant of circumcision with him. (Genesis 17:1-10). Twenty-four years passed since he left Haran (Note: A careful comparison of Genesis 12:4 with Genesis 17:1 will reveal Abraham's age at the time of the covenant).

Notice Genesis 17
1 And when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.

According to Galatians 3:16-17, 430 years passed between the time of the covenant with Abraham and the Sinai covenant, which was the year of the Exodus. (cf. Exodus 12:40).

Gal 3:16-17 "Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, "And to seeds," as of many, but as of one, "AND TO YOUR SEED," who is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect."

Hang in there, we're almost done. :) Now between the Exodus and the fourth year of King Solomon's building of the temple, 480 years had passed.(Note: By using secular records most scholars date the fourth year of Solomon to approximately 966 BC).

Notice 1 Kings 6:1 ,"And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD."

Let's do the math. 1,656 + 427 + 24 + 430 + 480 + 966 = 3983 years from Adam's creation to Christ's birth. Add 2,010 years from Christ birth to today = 5993. Give or take a few years.


Scriptures taken from the New King James Version. Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson Inc. Used by permission. All rights reserved."

tl;dr
And btw, this proves nothing except your ability to use circular reasoning...

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sniper762

Well-Known Member
JAMES, the dates and ages that you have listed, i have already concluded long ago. it seeams that you are missing the R EAL issue here.

being that ( we agree) that adam, the FIRST man was created app. 6000 years ago, so HOW do you figure in scientific and anthropolical claims of man living before then?
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
JAMES, the dates and ages that you have listed, i have already concluded long ago. it seeams that you are missing the R EAL issue here.

being that ( we agree) that adam, the FIRST man was created app. 6000 years ago, so HOW do you figure in scientific and anthropolical claims of man living before then?

I thought I answered this in post#147 on pg 15?
 

sniper762

Well-Known Member
you did james, my bad. it just didn't register in my mind as to your actual stance on preadamic man.

so are you saying that sciencetific and anthropological claims of human remains dating before 4000 bc are those of angelic beings?
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
you did james, my bad. it just didn't register in my mind as to your actual stance on preadamic man.

so are you saying that sciencetific and anthropological claims of human remains dating before 4000 bc are those of angelic beings?

The theory is satan (lucifer at the time) and possibly a third of God's angels were being tested for greater authority by how well they tended to hominids (animal like beings with no intellect, not the same as Post-adamic man), dinosaurs, and all of the earth's life forms, which God created, for that specific purpose at the time. Until they discovered God's plan to create man in His image to replace their authority. They rebelled and destroyed all life on the earth. Hence, the human-like fossils you see today. There is circumstantial evidence of this scenario throughout scripture.
 

sniper762

Well-Known Member
interesting theory james. mine is similar in believing that the preadamic humans were a race of humans that resided on this earth prior to adam. still created by god, but not "in his image".

i just never connected them to the angelic population.

so, those angels from heaven would have taken on a physical body of flesh and bones here on earth?

is this what you reference?
revelation 12: 7 And there was awar in heaven: bMichael and his cangels fought against the dragon; and the ddragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in aheaven.

9 And the great dragon was acast out, that old serpent, called the bDevil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


i perceive this to be a vision of the last days time frame.

if not, please reference appropriate scripture.
 

tomato1236

Ninja Master
The theory is satan (lucifer at the time) and possibly a third of God's angels were being tested for greater authority by how well they tended to hominids (animal like beings with no intellect, not the same as Post-adamic man), dinosaurs, and all of the earth's life forms, which God created, for that specific purpose at the time. Until they discovered God's plan to create man in His image to replace their authority. They rebelled and destroyed all life on the earth. Hence, the human-like fossils you see today. There is circumstantial evidence of this scenario throughout scripture.

That would make a terrific movie.
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
so, those angels from heaven would have taken on a physical body of flesh and bones here on earth?

Satan and his angels maintained their spiritual bodies during their test. Although they failed the test, God in His sovereign will, has allowed them to maintain their limited authority, over the earth, to this day.

is this what you reference? revelation 12: 7 And there was awar in heaven: bMichael and his cangels fought against the dragon; and the ddragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was acast out, that old serpent, called the bDevil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

You are correct. The above scriptures are prophetic in nature. Although, the principle of duality may be applicable. The verses that apply to satan's and his angels Pre Adamic rebellion and subsequent expulsion from heaven are:

Isa 14:12-17 "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! 13 For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.' 15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. 16 "Those who see you will gaze at you, And consider you, saying: 'Is this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms, 17 Who made the world as a wilderness And destroyed its cities, Who did not open the house of his prisoners?' (NLT)

Eze 28:13-18 You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created. 4 "You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones. 15 You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you. 16 "By the abundance of your trading You became filled with violence within, And you sinned; Therefore I cast you as a profane thing Out of the mountain of God; And I destroyed you, O covering cherub, From the midst of the fiery stones. 17 "Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor; I cast you to the ground, I laid you before kings, That they might gaze at you. 18 "You defiled your sanctuaries By the multitude of your iniquities, By the iniquity of your trading; Therefore I brought fire from your midst; It devoured you, And I turned you to ashes upon the earth In the sight of all who saw you. (NKJV)

Luk 10:18 And He said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." (NKJV)
Most scholars agree, this is referring to satan's pre adamic ejection from heaven.
 
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Yes, Adam was CroMagnon. In Genesis 14:15, God promises Abraham a child to produce the multitudes that would possess the “promised land.” However, the possession of the “promised land” is delayed by the covenant God had with his grandchildren, the Amorites, whbo were the "sons of God" Genesis 15:16 “But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.”
The Hebrews can not take possession of the “promised land” because “the inequity of the Amorites is not yet full.” This has to be interpreted as the “giants,” who were the offspring of the sons of God had a covenant, that up to this time had not been broken. The mysterious origins of the Amorites is shown in Ezekiel, chapter 28, in the judgement of the prince of Tyre. Tyre is a Phoenician/Amorite city of trade on the western shores of the Medeteranean. In the Book of Ezekiel are versus that place the Amorites within the Garden of Eden, where they were “created.” Is the Bible saying that Amorites who were of the Cro-Magnon species the first men that inhabited the Garden of Eden? Ezekiel 28:13:
“Thou hast been in Eden, the garden of God. The workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in the day that thou was created.” Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou was created, till iniquity was found in thee.”
Evolutionist can not find the precursor to CroMagnon; it is the "missing link." Adam was of theCroMagnon speicies. He along with the giant Amorites, whose skeletal remains have been identified as identical to those of the Upper Paleolithic CroMagnon were the "Sons of God."
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
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Is the Bible saying that Amorites who were of the Cro-Magnon species the first men that inhabited the Garden of Eden? Ezekiel 28:13:

In the Book of Ezekiel are versus that place the Amorites within the Garden of Eden, where they were “created.

The bible identifies only 3 beings in the Garden of Eden and satan was one of them. Implying anyone else would be pure conjecture.

Some of the phrases in Ezekiel 28 describing the human king of Tyre are also describing Satan. Great care must be taken to interpret these verses with discernment. It is clear that at times Ezekiel describes this king in terms that could not apply to a mere human. This king had been in the Garden of Eden--applies to satan--(Eze_28:13) had been "ordained and anointed--satan once again--. . . as the mighty angelic guardian"--satan again-- (Eze_28:14), and had access to the holy mountain of God--could only apply to someone in the spirit realm like satan (Eze_28:14), but was banished from there ---again, based on Isa 14 and other verses, implicates satan (Eze_28:16-17). Ezekiel, therefore, was not only condemning the king of Tyre but Satan, who had motivated the king to sin.

Yes, Adam was CroMagnon.

Not exactly. The theory goes: Cromagnon were Pre-Adamic created hominids for the purpose of qualifying satan and his angels for greater rule. See post#147 on pg 15 for an explanation.
 
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