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Trinity led me to Islam

da32010

New Member
The Trinity Led Me to Islam



An Irish Dentist Embraces Islam



My name is Roger Hadden, and I am originally from Dungannon in Northern Ireland. I am a dentist currently working in England. I have lived in Northern Ireland and Scotland, and I am now based in England. I was raised as a Christian, and my parents are born-again Christians.

Although I was raised with the teachings of the Bible, I did not particularly adhere to its principles. I suppose I was like most British youth, in that I liked to have fun but maybe didn't know where the limits were set.


While I did not practice any religion, I always believed that there was a God. I was scientifically minded, but realized that acknowledging there was a Big Bang did not necessarily rule out the possibility of there being a God who controlled and planned this event.


We could not have come out of nothing, and we did not create ourselves, so we must have been created. I thought about God from time to time, but it never had a real impact on my heart. My first encounter with Islam I suppose was the media, but I tend not to judge people or things until I see or find out about them myself and hear both sides of the story.


When I went to university I met many Muslims. At that time we discussed religion a little, but I was not seriously thinking about becoming religious. My desires were too strong, so I just wanted to enjoy myself.


At that time, I knew that at some stage I would want to change my ways and become a Christian. I then would also want to find out about other religions and understand what makes people believe in them. When I was in final year at university, I made plans to reform myself and become as my parents, a "born-again Christian". So I started my research with reading the Bible.


The concept of the Trinity always bothered me, and it was my main aim to understand it. I remember as a child wanting to ask God for something. I was not sure whether to pray to God or to pray to Jesus. I decided to pray to God as I knew if He created everything, then He will hear me and help me.


I spoke to some ministers, and several attempts were made to explain the Trinity. None of them convinced me. I continued to read the Bible, searching for the truth.


Obviously I am not a scholar in the Christian religion but the Trinity issue bugged me. Why did the Old Testament prophets all pray to God and do righteous acts hoping for God's forgiveness? Who did Jesus pray to?


There was no mention of the Trinity in the Old Testament, and many argue none in the New Testament. I knew God did not change, so there was a problem somewhere. I spoke to my friends at University. Some were Sikhs, Catholics, atheists, and some were Muslims.


My conversion changed my life completely, and looking back I know I made the correct decision


When I found out that Islam commands the worship of One God, and not to make any partners with Him, I was very interested. I continued reading the Bible and Christian sources but also started reading some Islamic books.

I read that Muslims believe that God sent his message to mankind through different prophets since Adam the first man. All the prophets believed in only One God and they also believed that there was going to be a day of reckoning when everyone will be raised and judged.


I realized that this is what I believe, and what I thought the Bible was saying to me. I discussed things with my parents, and they were not too impressed. Within a couple of months by the grace of God I became a Muslim.


My conversion changed my life completely, and looking back, I know I made the correct decision, thank God. Instead of living my life in a selfish way pleasing my desires, I try now to help others and please my Lord. I have now been a Muslim for five years and I am still learning new and amazing things about the religion.


Every time I hear something "negative" about the religion, I get the issue explained to me and it turns out to be a very positive and beautiful thing. I am continuing to learn Arabic and the Quran.


In my career it has made me much more focused, and I now desire to do everything to my best ability. My friends at university are often surprised with regards to my change, especially relating to dentistry.


My parents believed I was brainwashed, and many of my friends thought, and still think, it is just a phase. As it has been over five years now, my parents know it is not just a phase.


I first told my parents that I was thinking of becoming a Muslim, and they told me that it was a "hate religion" and that I should not do it. We talked about it for a while, and as I was convinced, I was sure I had to do it. I did not want to be punished in the next life.


A few months later I took the best step and embraced Islam. The same day my Dad bought me a car, not as a conversion gift, rather, it was his kindness and it just happened to be on the same day.


Since university, I have always lived away from my parents but I try to visit them a couple of times a year. Overall though, I feel my relationship with my parents has improved, as I try to be good to them as God commands in the Quran.


I have moved on from university and lost contact with many of my friends, some I speak to now and again, but as with life, we keep moving on and old friends we see less of and new friends are made.


I am currently working as a dentist in the UK. I am working and doing a part time masters program. I am learning Arabic, and I regularly attend Islamic talks and seminars in order to increase my knowledge.


I am married to a very special lady and we have, by the grace of God a beautiful 1-year-
old boy named Ismael (Ishmael from the Bible). We are trying to improve as Muslims, and we would like to travel abroad to a Muslim country. Ideally we would both love to study Islam to a higher level, so we are looking for opportunities to fulfill this dream.


By Roger Hadden

 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Note to religious folks: conversion stories and "science in scripture" stories and especially scientist conversion stories... are ineffective at winning converts.
 

Wotan

Active Member
After many years of trying and much personal study and mediation I have finally found the Great Pumpkin. Every day I grow in understating and love for His Rotundness. He inspires me daily.

My life is s-o-o much better now.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
Is this supposed to impress us, or convert us, or are you actually after debate regarding this?

and as I was convinced, I was sure I had to do it. I did not want to be punished in the next life.
Ugh.

Just ugh.


Additionally, this part is also a logical fallacy.. appeal to force, I presume?



I'm so glad I don't believe in the concept of hell and wasn't raised with it. I wonder if a study has been done on it, because the concept of hell on younger minds has got to be detrimental to one's psyche, considering it's one of the things that many first reject but one of the last for people to 'get over'.
 

Eliot Wild

Irreverent Agnostic Jerk
I first told my parents that I was thinking of becoming a Muslim, and they told me that it was a "hate religion" and that I should not do it. We talked about it for a while, and as I was convinced, I was sure I had to do it. I did not want to be punished in the next life.




So, let me get this straight . . . From what I've read of your post, the only clear, decisive reasoning you've found for choosing islam, is that you don't want to be punished in the next life. I suppose that's cool.

My reasoning was just as bad, I guess. I wanted a religion that didn't worship on Sunday's because I didn't want church services conflicting with NFL seasonal play. So, I became a member of the Universe People Church of Cosmic Light who believe that God rides a spaceship that orbits the earth. Other than that, I have no idea what they really believe, but I'm sure you understand what that is like having chosen your religion based on fear rather than sound reasoning. However, I do know that my religion doesn't require us to meet on Sundays, so it's all good.
 

Wotan

Active Member
Is this supposed to impress us, or convert us, or are you actually after debate regarding this?


Ugh.

Just ugh.


Additionally, this part is also a logical fallacy.. appeal to force, I presume?



I'm so glad I don't believe in the concept of hell and wasn't raised with it. I wonder if a study has been done on it, because the concept of hell on younger minds has got to be detrimental to one's psyche, considering it's one of the things that many first reject but one of the last for people to 'get over'.


It is necessary. Religion - or at least THIS one - is about POWER. Political power. The rabble needs to be controlled. If not they will steal us blind. We need to convince them to behave and the threat of hell and/or promise of paradise is one way.

When they believe THAT then we can get them to do other things we want. Like vote us into office and pay taxes and obey laws we enact.

And that is ALL it is folks. Power and nothing else.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I wonder if we have to make an appointment to get a reply :D make mine Tooth hurty hem i mean 2.30 :D and are you telling us the whole Tooth :rolleyes: i mean truth.

Sorry i love Dentist jokes and it helps get through the days proselytizing,i see no debate here really unless you have more to say:)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
While I did not practice any religion, I always believed that there was a God. I was scientifically minded.....
We could not have come out of nothing, and we did not create ourselves, so we must have been created.


OK, these statements are a little at odds with each other, but I can live with them.

I am currently working as a dentist in the UK.

But this is outlandish....a dentist...working in England?
Obviously, this guy is a complete fraud.
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no-body

Well-Known Member
what does the trinity have to do with it? There are Christian sects that are non-trinitarian too.
 
Good to hear that. May God bless you.

"It is He(GOD) who hath sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the Religion of Truth, TO PROCLAIM IT OVER ALL RELIGION, even though the Pagans may detest this religion" [Quran, 8:33]

This is the clear promise of God Almighty that Islam will proclaim over all religion.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
So, let me get this straight . . . From what I've read of your post, the only clear, decisive reasoning you've found for choosing islam, is that you don't want to be punished in the next life. I suppose that's cool.

My reasoning was just as bad, I guess. I wanted a religion that didn't worship on Sunday's because I didn't want church services conflicting with NFL seasonal play. So, I became a member of the Universe People Church of Cosmic Light who believe that God rides a spaceship that orbits the earth. Other than that, I have no idea what they really believe, but I'm sure you understand what that is like having chosen your religion based on fear rather than sound reasoning. However, I do know that my religion doesn't require us to meet on Sundays, so it's all good.

I have never seen an NFL game played on sunday moring between the hours of 10 and 12. I did miss church to catch the British Open Golf Tournament however.

I am suprprised you haven't opted for Stargate's Ascension, lol.
 
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