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Just a bit of sharing from me and the rest of the brethren

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
It was in response to your "show me one scientist..." bit. You cannot prove it. Nobody can. Unless you go back in time with a camcorder, it cannot be proven, and no scientist in their right mind would say "yes, there is proof for that" when there is none.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Jensa said:
It was in response to your "show me one scientist..." bit. You cannot prove it. Nobody can. Unless you go back in time with a camcorder, it cannot be proven, and no scientist in their right mind would say "yes, there is proof for that" when there is none.
Either that, or there was an Eyewitness there that put it in writing, and now lives in your heart.
 

Jaymes

The cake is a lie
I'm happy to report there are no parasites or any other such creatures living in my heart.
 

JerryL

Well-Known Member
Created any atom bombs, lately? Gunpowder? Wanna compare body counts?
Sure thing. How many people were killed in the name of science? How many genocides? How many wars?

You list yours and I'll double it.

Either that, or there was an Eyewitness there that put it in writing, and now lives in your heart.
Except that he's unregenerate. Perhaps God has just not chosen to save him.

Or perhaps the problem is that he's a skeptic and you are delusional.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
AV1611 said:
Jesus walked on water, for example. Show me ONE scientists that denys that. Just ONE.
It is truly beyond me how anyone, pro or con, could read such an argument and respect it.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
JerryL said:
Or perhaps the problem is that he's a skeptic and you are delusional.
Or you're a fool - (Psalm 14:1) - or a reprobate (Titus 1:16).
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Deut. 32.8 said:
It is truly beyond me how anyone, pro or con, could read such an argument and respect it.
If it's "beyond you", and you really want to know, may I suggest you try to catch up?
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
** MOD POST **

Please stick to the topic at hand, and refrain from personal attacks or purposeless inflammatory posts.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
AV1611 said:
I love Scientists, Michel. I think every Bibliophobe should have their own personal one.
Do you mean 'person who fears books' or 'person who fears the Bible'? Either way, I'm not sure if I understand it.

Scientists are not out to get theists. They have a curious nature, and a delightful one at that.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
FeathersinHair said:
Scientists are not out to get theists. They have a curious nature, and a delightful one at that.
A scientist can't be a theist?
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
AV1611 said:
A scientist can't be a theist?
I'm sorry if my comment was interpreted that way. What I meant was to reassure you that scientists are not out to get theists. (I may have been wrong, but that was the impression I was getting that you had.)
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
FeathersinHair said:
I'm sorry if my comment was interpreted that way. What I meant was to reassure you that scientists are not out to get theists. (I may have been wrong, but that was the impression I was getting that you had.)
Well, the unregenerate ones usually are.

In Genesis 1, God created the Earth before He created the Sun.

ANY scientist that says the Sun was created first, is not supporting Genesis 1.

And, if "I" didn't believe Genesis 1, and I was a scientist, I would say the Sun came first, also. But if some Christian accused me of not believing Genesis 1 because I gave a lecture on the Sun being created first, I would reply, "You're absolutely right".
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
FeathersinHair said:
Ahhhh... So by 'thiest' you mean "a very specific type of Christianity"?
Well, I had looked 'theist' up on my online dictionary and it said:

BELIEF IN THE EXISTENCT OF A GOD OR GODS, ESPECIALLY BELIEF IN A PERSONAL GOD AS CREATOR AND RULER OF THE WORLD.

That's the only definition it gave, and that's the definition I went with.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
AV1611 said:
Well, I had looked 'theist' up on my online dictionary and it said:

BELIEF IN THE EXISTENCT OF A GOD OR GODS, ESPECIALLY BELIEF IN A PERSONAL GOD AS CREATOR AND RULER OF THE WORLD.

That's the only definition it gave, and that's the definition I went with.
So you wouldn't see people who subscribed to other faiths as theists?
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
FeathersinHair said:
So you wouldn't see people who subscribed to other faiths as theists?
Wel-l-l-l-l, I'd hafta know what their writings say, and what they believe about it.

For instance, as I understand it, Jews are theists.

Catholics are theists. Mormons are theists (I think). Theists, per se, are theists.

Hindus are theists. Buddhists are not (I think). Neither are athiests.

Agnostics abstain from deciding.

etc
 

JerryL

Well-Known Member
the - God
ist - conjugit of "ism"
ism - belief or movement

a thiest has a believe in a god or gods.

... trying to stay on topic but having no idea what the topic is :p
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
So, for example, a scientist could be a Hindu. Therefore, he might have a different interpretation of Genesis. (Or for that matter, a Christian who also has a different interpretation than you might.)

You said
ANY scientist that says the Sun was created first, is not supporting Genesis 1.
Are you then saying that anyone 'not supporting' Genesis is therefore attacking theisim? (The belief in a higher power.) Or are you saying something else?
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
JerryL said:
the - God
ist - conjugit of "ism"
ism - belief or movement

a thiest has a believe in a god or gods.

... trying to stay on topic but having no idea what the topic is :p
I said that, didn't I?
 
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