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Inerrancy of the Bible and other Religious Texts
- Thread starter Ceridwen018
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Very well ...AV1611 said:
cmotdibbler
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One of the "scientists" at AiG mentions hIs ability to play chess blindfolded, is AV1611 really Ken Ham?AV1611 said:
I noticed Deut's list of biblical absurdities and was hoping you could answer this one as well.
Please explain how copulation in front of a shadowed fence results in spotted offspring. Feel free to include peer-reviewed references and molecular genetics terminology.
Jacob tends Laben's flock (Genesis)
30:37 And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods.
30:38 And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink.
30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.
Ryan2065
Well-Known Member
From my readings Av1611 either you are avoiding debating errors in the bible or you did not read my post. here it is again for you. A short list of the errors of the bible. If any of these errors are really errors, then the bible is not inerrant. So please explain to me how these are not errors...
Ryan2065 said:
Fascist Christ
Active Member
Was that 24 years of repetition? 24 years of brainwashing? of misinformation? What does it take for someone to neglect the fact that they could be wrong, and simply accept tradition over possible progress?AV1611 said:
I can understand being conservative, but it seems rather extreme when its to a point where you can't even entertain the idea that someone who you trusted for 24 years could possibly be a liar. If someone told you that your spouse has been cheating on you, would you claim it's nonsense simply because you were married for 24 years? If twenty more people came to you and said the same thing, would you then wonder? If your wife and twenty of her friends told you it was a lie, should you believe them?
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
Ryan,
I went throught the first six references (I have to pick up my son) and your "errors" are anything BUT!
First, In Matthew he is refering to his own death on the cross. Go read what happened.
Secondly, do you EVER refer to the "rising and setting of the sun"??? If you do you must not know ANYTHING about astronomy dude. EVERYONE KNOWS that the sun stays put and the earth turns. So sue them for writing in the vernacular of the time.
Are all of your "errors" as lame as these? Just because you don't understand the context of what you read, does not make them errors.
I went throught the first six references (I have to pick up my son) and your "errors" are anything BUT!
First, In Matthew he is refering to his own death on the cross. Go read what happened.
Secondly, do you EVER refer to the "rising and setting of the sun"??? If you do you must not know ANYTHING about astronomy dude. EVERYONE KNOWS that the sun stays put and the earth turns. So sue them for writing in the vernacular of the time.
Are all of your "errors" as lame as these? Just because you don't understand the context of what you read, does not make them errors.
True, but it actually conveys more. AV1611 writes ...Sunstone said:
When you can respect my posts and the info I've already supplied to you ... and prove it to me ... then maybe you'll regain my respect back for you.
But I clearly don't respect, as evidence, "the info ... already supplied" as evidence, precisely because it is worthless as such. His complaint is equivalent to setting as a precondition for debate that we must accept the KJV as sole evidence of the errancy or inerrancy of the KJV. It is beyond me how anyone could accept, much less respect, such a preposterous requirement.
Ceridwen018
Well-Known Member
Not at all, AV. There is just as much 'proof and evidence" for Zeus as there is for the Abrahamic God. There is nothing your God has that Zeus doesn't, that's my point.
Wow, Ryan; that's quite a list.Ryan2065 said:
I'm reminded of the scene in Jaws when Quint challenges Hooper to prove his Seamanship. He throws Hooper a rope and tells Hooper to tie him a Sheepshank. Hooper ties it and throws it back to Quint, and I'll never forget what Quint does: He just catches the rope and, without even looking at it, throws it on the floor.
Give me two off that list, Ryan; and, depending on your reaction to my Hermeneutics, I may explain the rest.
Fair enough?
Au contrere, Ceridwen. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY is debated more that my Saviour, and the Book He wrote. I love it! Almost every Athiest, Agnostic, Buddhist, Jainist, Confusian, and all the other Heinz 57 varities know Him and His cross.Ceridwen018 said:
Still no evidence of the Exodus/Conquest? It got a lot of press in the Torah. I would think that such evidence should be abundant - assuming, of course, that it's not embellished and politicized folklore.AV1611 said:
Ceridwen018
Well-Known Member
Heinz 57 varieties?
Fascist Christ
Active Member
Sorry. I was not trying to do that. It's hard to discuss somethings without it coming off as an insult. It's a shame, some legitiamate points get avoided because of that. Maybe I should be more careful of how I phrase things.AV1611 said:
I don't see how that is something to be proud of. Due to our brains' negative bias, we tend to pay the most attention to the most negative things. That's why most of the news is negative. That's why politicians spend so much of their campaigns insulting their opponents. And that's (part of) why a religion that glorifies the murder (crucifixion) of an innocent man (Jesus the Nazarene) is so highly debated.AV1611 said:
Ceridwen018
Well-Known Member
I know its a figure of speech, but I interpret it as being very disrespectful. As in, all other religions are just a dime a dozen, but not Christianity! Let me tell you something: Your religion is just as valid as any other.