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a letter to the muslims

mahayana

Member
Lloyd and LV,

Your exchanges reminded me of this way of taking what makes sense from all sources.

"What the Buddha Taught" by the Venerable Walpola Rahula. This an excerpt is from that text.

"The Buddha once visited a small town called Kesaputta in the kingdom of Kosala. The inhabitants of this town were known by the common name Kalama. When they heard that the Buddha was in their town, the Kalamas paid him a visit, and told him:

'Sir, there are some recluses and brahmanas who visit Kesaputta. They explain and illumine only their own doctrines, and despise, condemn and spurn others' doctrines. Then come other recluses and brahmanas, and they, too, in their turn, explain and illumine only their own doctrines, and despise and condemn and spurn others' doctrines. But, for us, Sir, we have always doubt and perplexity as to who among these venerable recluses and brahmanas spoke the truth and who spoke falsehood.'

Then the Budhha gave them this advice, unique in the history of religions:

'Yes, Kalamas, it is proper that you have doubt, that you have perplexity, for a doubt has arisen in a matter which is doubtful. Now, look you Kalamas, do not be led by reports, or tradition, or hearsay. Be not led by the authority of religious texts, nor by mere logic or inference, nor by considering appearances, nor by the delight in speculative opinions, nor by seeming possibilities, nor by the idea; "this is our teacher'. But, O Kalamas, when you know for youselves that certain things are unwholesome (akusala), and wrong, and bad, then give them up ... And when you know for youselves that certain things are wholesome (kusala) and good, then accept them and follow them.'

The Buddha went even further. He told the bhikkhus that a disciple should examine even the Tathagata (Buddha) himself, so that he (the disciple) might be fully convinced of the true value of the teacher whom he followed."

 

Lord_Vader

Member
Personally, if I meet any prophet or messanger, I would challange them and every word they would preach, to show proof of what they speak and tell others.

For crying out loud, how stupid are humans if they have to be told the difference between what is good and what is bad? Even in every culture right from wrong comes with many perspectives depending on your beliefs, values and culture. So what is wrong to one is ok to another.

In regards to the monothesic religions, I personally believe it is so far fetched and full of contridictions and through scientific research (geology, archology, astronomey etc), many of the things written where simply discription of the workings of nature... ETC the exodus was infact caused by a giant volcanic fallout simular, but far greater then krackdo in Indonesia.

Alot of the stories contributed by the Jews where in fact stories that came from Babyalon methology. The burning bush that spoke to moses was in fact a bush which people would eat and it caused people to helusionate (eg Moses and his visions of god).

There are many publications from many renouned world scientists, but humans being humans can not face up to the truth and have to live in a world of fantisy of gods, angels and so on....
 

CMIYC

Member
As they say; “truth is nothing more but a perception”. To think that you hold the truth over any other truth is ludicrous. That would be like saying, I love my family more then you love yours. This year some of you might even be prepared to die for the truth you know, but next year you might laugh at the same truth and think to yourself, how silly was I. In time as our knowledge grows, our wisdom grows and the truth you know now, might be completely different truth later.
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Lord_Vader said:
The god of islam "Allah", was in fact around a long time before muhhammad started the religion of islam. In fact, the arabs used to worship 3 gods and allah was in fact the moon god worshiped by arab tribes people (this is were the islamic symbol of the cressent moon & star comes from)..
* It seems that you like to use the word " in fact " so much as you are so sure about what you are saying.

can you please come with any evidence rather than your story that looks ready to be a movie not " facts "

Lord_Vader said:
History has it, but will be debated strongly by muslims, as it discredits their relgion, that when muhhammad needed to choose a god, he could not, so he wrote the three god's names down on individual paper, placed the three pieces into a hat and drew only one and that one was the god allah.
:eek:
* Do you think any muslim would follow him if he really did what you just said :biglaugh:

actually my advice to you is to not depend in one source while you are looking for any information.


Lord_Vader said:
There is a lot of truth to the real history of the creation of islam and most of it over time has been deceptive & false, but covered up by lies and other methods of deception by muhhamad himself (doomsday, burn in hell for questioning gods word etc written throughout the qu'ran). However, like the christian faith, islam grew the same way, had it's own crusades (muslim invaders, sword of islam) and established it's place in the world as an accepted faith due to its number of followers..
* wow .. there is a lot of truth have been revealed by you ??? :biglaugh:

any evidince so far please ?? and by the way what do you mean by sword of islam?


Lord_Vader said:
As time goes on and we become more advanced and collect & research more information
* I'm looking forward to know the source of these (( research & information )).
:help:
 
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