I can cook pretty well. I make a mean spaghetti, with tofu. And I am old enough to buy beer, though I only drink vodka (Водка. It is pure and my body is a temple.
Piffle! Beer is good food. Vodka is a cleaning solution.
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What are the top 10 things you want the government to do?
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Piffle! Beer is good food. Vodka is a cleaning solution.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
No, you said it. If you meant something different, you should have said something different.
I doubt that.
Says reason and logic in reference to what makes a good society.
Yes, not everyone does, but I wasn't talking about everyone. I was talking about non-right-wingers generally.
Where did I advocate raising taxes? Taxes here are not very high, though. the problem is what we get for the taxes we pay.
The main thing is we need to start getting our money's worth for our taxes and cut out some of the bureaucracy.
Europe has more than one economy. Some are in bad shape, and others aren't too bad off. Scandinavian countries' economies are doing fairly well, and they employ a good bit more socialist policies than we do, and they're happier than us, too.
Darkness
Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Okay... I could take you being a libertarian, but ******* all over Vodka by calling it a cleaning solution has gone too far!
Okay... I could take you being a libertarian, but ******* all over Vodka by calling it a cleaning solution has gone too far!
That's what we do here....take things too far. (We're an angry lot.)
I think ultimately people must govern themselves and accept the responsibility of self government.
I think we need a decentralized grassroots democracy with a centralized federal government that works to protect the people from big business (wars are only something to be secondarily concerned about). I like the idea of free market capitalism, though honestly I think there should be no monetary system, but public sharing and redistribution of resources at the community level. So various communities are created which have their own domain, then there is a state level, and finally the national level. Decisions on the national level are actually made at the community level, so essentially the people can choose to go to war or not to go to war, not congress or a president. The system by nature, checks and balances itself as power is decentralized and distributed across many people and not focused onto the hands of a few who can be bribed or their offices infiltrated by special interest groups. During times of war, the country acts as a more centralized unit with decision makers making decisions at the top of the hierarchical level. This is then dismantled during times of peace. But ultimately the decision making is left to the hands of all people. All people are required to take part in decision making, everyone must vote.
The primary value of society is self-actualization and self improvement, instead of self interest and making profit. Society is collectivist, where the interest is in the common good, or the good of all people, and not self interest at the expense of the common good.
Wait... after writing this I realized that these ideas are similar to socialism/communism... Strange, since I never really studied Marx.
The other idea I like is reverting back to the way our government functioned when it first formed. I suppose it was designed to prevent things such as the "tyranny of the majority" and corruption, thought my presumption is that it is limited in doing so. It would be only a matter of time before positions are infiltrated, laws subverted, and corruption sets in, which is what happened to our constitutional republic from what I understand. But, great idea if government positions and constitutional laws can be protected somehow. Also, proper education and involvement by the people would be required to keep it in place.
I think we need a decentralized grassroots democracy with a centralized federal government that works to protect the people from big business (wars are only something to be secondarily concerned about). I like the idea of free market capitalism, though honestly I think there should be no monetary system, but public sharing and redistribution of resources at the community level. So various communities are created which have their own domain, then there is a state level, and finally the national level. Decisions on the national level are actually made at the community level, so essentially the people can choose to go to war or not to go to war, not congress or a president. The system by nature, checks and balances itself as power is decentralized and distributed across many people and not focused onto the hands of a few who can be bribed or their offices infiltrated by special interest groups. During times of war, the country acts as a more centralized unit with decision makers making decisions at the top of the hierarchical level. This is then dismantled during times of peace. But ultimately the decision making is left to the hands of all people. All people are required to take part in decision making, everyone must vote.
The primary value of society is self-actualization and self improvement, instead of self interest and making profit. Society is collectivist, where the interest is in the common good, or the good of all people, and not self interest at the expense of the common good.
Wait... after writing this I realized that these ideas are similar to socialism/communism... Strange, since I never really studied Marx.
The other idea I like is reverting back to the way our government functioned when it first formed. I suppose it was designed to prevent things such as the "tyranny of the majority" and corruption, thought my presumption is that it is limited in doing so. It would be only a matter of time before positions are infiltrated, laws subverted, and corruption sets in, which is what happened to our constitutional republic from what I understand. But, great idea if government positions and constitutional laws can be protected somehow. Also, proper education and involvement by the people would be required to keep it in place.
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justbehappy
Active Member
Huh?
Good. Then you'll agree that socialism isn't inherently bad, just as capitalism isn't.[/quote]
Socialistic policies & Socialism - big difference
justbehappy
Active Member
Says you.
Ah, so you're saying you don't see all the money you pay back? :yes:
I've read about how Denmark is supposedly the happiest country in the world. I'm not sure how long they've had these Socialistic policies in place but here is my thought on it: If people don't know freedom, then they may be happier without it. But once they know it, they'll crave it their whole lives. This to me makes a lot of sense.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
You claim that countries refer to themselves officially as something. How does a country do that?
There is a difference, but it's irrelevant in this case.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Yes, I say it because I realized it through the use of reason and logic. Therefore reason and logic say it.
No, of course not. Part of our problem is the misuse of funds that should be going other places. It's not that we have too many programs; it's that the programs we have tend to not be run that well. In many countries in Europe, they pay more taxes than we do, have more programs than we do, but they get their money's worth, which is why they tend to like it. If our programs were run better, I think we'd see less opposition to "socialist policies" and taxes.
That's a wonderful idea, except for the idea that it means Danish people would have to not have freedom and know nothing of other countries where people do have freedom. First, they have plenty of freedom. Second, even if they didn't, it would be quite easy for them to understand what they didn't have. No, they understand their situation quite well, and they like it for the most part. Nice try at a rationalization, though.