Somthing i often wonder about is how some Christians who also belive in evolution reconcile their belifes, i dont want this to be an evolution vs creation thread. Instead id rather discuss "what would Jesus Do" as he is the Creator to Christians. Hence the same faith debate section.
quotes taken from this thread- http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15439
What does that statement really mean to you?
Do you belive Jesus for example was physical, or that his miracles of healing, raising people from the Dead, turning water to wine etc were real events that physically took place? If our religion is Real than it is also explicitly deals with the physical realm aswell. Do you regard the historic battles between nations described in the Bible to have really taken place, or the slavery that the Jewish people experienced while in Egypt, what about the Exodus? All of these things happened in the Physical realm, you cannot seperate religion from the physical realm if the religion is describing things as an explicitly physically event.
More subtle tools ah? Do you belive that Jesus created the world?
For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Colossians 1:16
Hebrews 1:5-10
For to which of the angels did God ever say,
"You are my Son; ..... v10 He also says,
"In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
With what you know about Jesus, his ability to instantly heal the blind, raise people from the dead, instantly cure diseases etc combined with his love for mankind such that he would be flogged and crucified for their sake - Do you really belive he would use evolution as one of his "subtle tools"? Do you belive that he would use death, diseases, survival of the fittest etc to create a world described by God as "very Good"? Their are fossils that show diseases etc that evolutionists claim were laid down befor mankind existed.
Do you belive that although Jesus was able to instantly heal, raise the dead etc - he instead choose to use diseases and death to bring about his creation?
The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 1 Corinthians 15:26
You may say this refers only to spiritual death but then i ask, why did Jesus have to physically die when he paid for our sins - to reconcile us to God, he took upon the curse that our sin brought upon all of Creation. Do you belive Jesus physically rose from the dead? was his body gone from the tomb, did he still bear the nail holes in his hands?
I cannot see how you can reconcile Jesus in the bible to the theory of evolution.
quotes taken from this thread- http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15439
NetDoc said:
What does that statement really mean to you?
Do you belive Jesus for example was physical, or that his miracles of healing, raising people from the Dead, turning water to wine etc were real events that physically took place? If our religion is Real than it is also explicitly deals with the physical realm aswell. Do you regard the historic battles between nations described in the Bible to have really taken place, or the slavery that the Jewish people experienced while in Egypt, what about the Exodus? All of these things happened in the Physical realm, you cannot seperate religion from the physical realm if the religion is describing things as an explicitly physically event.
NetDoc said:
NetDoc said:
More subtle tools ah? Do you belive that Jesus created the world?
For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Colossians 1:16
Hebrews 1:5-10
For to which of the angels did God ever say,
"You are my Son; ..... v10 He also says,
"In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
With what you know about Jesus, his ability to instantly heal the blind, raise people from the dead, instantly cure diseases etc combined with his love for mankind such that he would be flogged and crucified for their sake - Do you really belive he would use evolution as one of his "subtle tools"? Do you belive that he would use death, diseases, survival of the fittest etc to create a world described by God as "very Good"? Their are fossils that show diseases etc that evolutionists claim were laid down befor mankind existed.
Do you belive that although Jesus was able to instantly heal, raise the dead etc - he instead choose to use diseases and death to bring about his creation?
The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 1 Corinthians 15:26
You may say this refers only to spiritual death but then i ask, why did Jesus have to physically die when he paid for our sins - to reconcile us to God, he took upon the curse that our sin brought upon all of Creation. Do you belive Jesus physically rose from the dead? was his body gone from the tomb, did he still bear the nail holes in his hands?
I cannot see how you can reconcile Jesus in the bible to the theory of evolution.
