Why did God create us?

Muad'dib · Jul 15, 2004

quick said:
Frankly, in everything we do, we believe in and live pursuant to causation. It is much more logical and consistent with this inescapable world view to attribute creation to a cause, God, than to attribute creation to its own independent existence.

Give me a ****** break. If it's illogical to attribute creation to its own independent existence, then the same ****** argument should hold for God. Yet I am sure that you believe God has always existed and always will exist, that nothing caused his existence. Thus, you have to either accept your premise and hold that the concept of God is also illogical, or drop that premise and hold that it is possible for creation to have its own independent existence.

Muad'dib · Jul 15, 2004

zipo29 said:
The reason God created us is so we can Glorify Him.

You've got to be kidding me. ****** Did you really intend to reduce God to some attention seeking, egotistical teenager? Doesn't God have better things to do than to create little people to tell him all day, "You're so great! Can I have your autograph?" :roll:

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dan · Jul 16, 2004

God organized us so that we may become like Him someday. It's the same reason any good father has children.

Pah · Jul 16, 2004

dan said:
God organized us so that we may become like Him someday. It's the same reason any good father has children.

I would rather live my own life than repeat the life of my father.

dan · Jul 16, 2004

You missed my point entirely. I don't want to have a kid so he can do everything exactly as I do, but I have a kid so he can experience some thing that I have experienced and hopefully learn more from them. I want him to be better than me. It is a commandment to be as perfect as God. He wants us to become like Him.

Pah · Jul 16, 2004

dan said:
You missed my point entirely. I don't want to have a kid so he can do everything exactly as I do, but I have a kid so he can experience some thing that I have experienced and hopefully learn more from them. I want him to be better than me. It is a commandment to be as perfect as God. He wants us to become like Him.

Sorry, Dan, by that reasoning wouldn't you end up being more perfect than god?

dan · Jul 17, 2004

That's the funny thing about perfection: it's a superlative. You can't get more perfect than any level of perfection.

crystal · Jul 24, 2004

I think GOD created us because he wanted to make something good. After he made the earth ,he was pleased. After he made creaters of the earth he was pleased. So he made humans,and he was pleased. but, then the devil showed up and has been destroying all of GOD's good work, ever since.

Paraprakrti · Aug 4, 2004

true blood said:
God created Mankind for a dwelling place.

For who to dwell? For God?

Paraprakrti · Aug 4, 2004

God doesn't take pleasure in fleeting things. Therefore God didn't create humans for His pleasure, as many people are implying.

dan · Aug 7, 2004

Pleasure is intrinsically fleeting. Happiness is why God created man. His happiness and ours. Happiness endures throughout time and space, and God likes it.

Paraprakrti · Aug 7, 2004

God doesn't create anything for His own peasure, or happiness. God does not take pleasure in created things. God takes pleasure in eternal things. That is the difference between us and God. So God did not create people so that He could be happy. The idea is ridiculous. If God does take pleaure in us it is because we are eternal. Otherwise, there is no question of pleasure or happiness in fleeting things.

anders · Aug 10, 2004

Muad'dib asked "Did you really intend to reduce God to some attention seeking, egotistical teenager? Doesn't God have better things to do than to create little people to tell him all day, 'You're so great! Can I have your autograph?'"

To me, that seems indeed to be his reasons for creating mankind. "Praise me! Burn some meat for me! If you touch my things, I'll smite you!" But in my opinion, that looks more like an egotistic pre-school child than a teenager.

Pah · Aug 10, 2004

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth,

and....

Genesis 2:7-8 7 the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed.

Genesis 2:15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.

It seems that God needed caretakers for he then made a help mate (Genesis 2:18) which ended up being Eve (Genesis 2:19-22)
-pah-

iwilliam · Aug 10, 2004

God is limited if he created everything in six days,and had to sleep on the seventh!

iwilliam · Aug 10, 2004

Genisis 1:26 states then god said let us make man in our image and after our likeness.My question to you is who is the us that God was speeking of.

true blood · Aug 11, 2004

Paraprakrti said:
For who to dwell? For God?

Well it goes much deeper. Alot of dynamics involved. You see, God in His foreknowledge knew that Adam would transfer his God-given rights to Satan and then He, God, would have to beget a Son to redeem man; therefore, in the very beginning He formed, made and created man in such a manner that man's redemption could be made on legal grounds. The topic question asks to understand the origin of man. In Isaiah 43:7 God said He created man for His glory; He formed him and made him. If God's Word means what is says and says what it means, these words cannot be synonymous. But God said, "I created, formed and made man." Also, in I Thessalonians, God uses three other words to define the man He created, formed and made for His glory. In 5:23 the three words "spirit," "soul" and "body" are used. Are these words synonymous? No more so than "created," "formed" and "made" are synonymous. Man consisted of three parts; one part God formed, one He made and one He created. The Word of God speaks for itself regarding what was formed, what was made and what was created, as well as what is body, soul and spirit.

true blood · Aug 11, 2004

iwilliam said:
Genisis 1:26 states then god said let us make man in our image and after our likeness.My question to you is who is the us that God was speeking of.

I believe you'll be able to find your answer somewhere on the forums in a previous post. Figures of Speech my friend. Learn them, love them, understand them because the art of writing and language contains many.

Jayhawker Soule · Aug 11, 2004

true blood said:
Figures of Speech my friend. Learn them, love them, understand them because the art of writing and language contains many.

Pathetic denial my friend. The history of the proto-Israelite federation contains ample evidence of henotheism and monolatry.

true blood · Aug 11, 2004

Deut. 32.8 said:
Pathetic denial my friend. The history of the proto-Israelite federation contains ample evidence of henotheism and monolatry.

Denial? I am aware of the issue in regards to 1:26 and have choosen to believe that a figure of speech is used. Rather then say I'm in denial, I would say I've made a choice. A choice I can be at peace with God with. Regardless of any history, or ample evidence, or to rely entirely on the five senses to acquire knowledge I also ascertain knowledge through my communication with God, made possible by God's creation within me. Do you have perfect fellowship with the Creator at all times?

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