• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Religion is passe,

Breathe

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
mho123 said:
Is it true that religion is passe and that we should stop believing in god ?
Click to expand...
Welcome to RF!

Is it true that religion is outdated? I don't think so.
Should we stop believing in God? Belief isn't an on-off switch. I personally believe in God, but if you don't that's up to you; it's none of my concern if you do or don't. . :)
 
M

mho123

Atheist
I am not a believer but want to understand why people believe ,, cause to meet it all sounds like old stories from a long past time which doesnt really make sense,, but i agree with you ,, everyone is free to believe whatever they want to ,, and i repect that ,, as long as people respect that i dont believe ,,
 
M

mho123

Atheist
Sorry have to be more carefull with my typing ,, too many mistakes ,,i see a lot of discussions here and other similar forums ,, people trying to prove disproove good exists and to me its all endless discussions with no benefit to noone ,, i look more from the human psycological side of things ,, what do you guys get from it , why do soo many people still believe ,, for me the most surprising part is not wheather it exists or not but how the subject is kept alive ,for so long ,,
 
Breathe

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
mho123 said:
I am not a believer but want to understand why people believe ,, cause to meet it all sounds like old stories from a long past time which doesnt really make sense,,
Click to expand...
It depends how you see them, really. If you are reading the stories as literal, historical events then no wonder they do not make sense. Instead, I think for one to read them as though they are stories that teach a moral lesson is far more effective.

To read them as literal would bring up too many questions, such as to use the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, if one takes it face value as a literal, historical story then one would then "why isn't God punishing cities with large homosexual populations like he did before?" And the account of Genesis "Why is there overwhelming evidence for evolution?" (bearing in mind, I believe in neither of these, they are examples).


May I ask where you are from? :)
 
kejos

kejos

Active Member
Odion said:
It depends how you see them, really. If you are reading the stories as literal, historical events then no wonder they do not make sense. Instead, I think for one to read them as though they are stories that teach a moral lesson is far more effective.

To read them as literal would bring up too many questions, such as to use the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, if one takes it face value as a literal, historical story then one would then "why isn't God punishing cities with large homosexual populations like he did before?"
Click to expand...
Because he wants people to accept Jesus and give up whatever is harmful.

And the account of Genesis "Why is there overwhelming evidence for evolution?" (bearing in mind, I believe in neither of these, they are examples).
Click to expand...
But isn't the idea to take early Genesis as allegory?
 
M

mho123

Atheist
Netherlans
For a whil i have to go away but will be back this evening ,,
here time is 120 pm
c u guys over a few hours .
 
Mr. Hair

Mr. Hair

Renegade Cavalcade
mho123 said:
Is it true that religion is passe and that we should stop believing in god ?
Click to expand...

I guess it depends on what you mean by "religion". I think that religion itself can never be universally regarded as passé, as what religion means and entails is constantly changing and adapting within a populace. However, any system of religious beliefs or practices can easily become inadequate and neglected, sometimes within a single generation.

This isn't directly specifically at you, mho123, but it's one of my greatest bugbears how so many people assume that despite radical changes in society, culture, language, economics, geography and theology, somehow everyone everywhere has always meant exactly the same thing when they talk about "religion" or "belief" or "God", and that meaning has always been the one we use right now. (For a given value of "we", obviously) It's bad history, and worse theology.

You don't even have to get all technical and pernickety to see how flawed this assumption is. Just take a gander at religion in the 1950s in the US, look at the explosion of New Religious Movements and the growth of fundamentalist Christianity (and the corresponding counter-growth of a more strident and aggressive atheism), and try to argue with a straight face that what we understand "religion" to be is exactly the same as it was a mere sixty years ago in the same country.

*is fully licensed to use apostrophes with extreme prejudice*
 
M

mho123

Atheist
I have to tell you Kejos ,, that i have no knowledge of any religious stories ,, dont even know what all those things you are telling me are about ,, but i will check ,,
Promised :)
 
M

mho123

Atheist
I am very sorry to go away like this but i have guests ,, have to go ,, we will get back to the subject ,,, i will leave my pc on ,,
to be continued.
 
Mr. Hair

Mr. Hair

Renegade Cavalcade
mho123 said:
I am very sorry to go away like this but i have guests ,, have to go ,, we will get back to the subject ,,, i will leave my pc on ,,
to be continued.
Click to expand...

Hey, we're talking about God. That guy isn't going anywhere. (Or maybe he's already there, or... Something...)

In any case, everything will be here whenever you get back. Have fun with your guests. :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top