I.S.L.A.M617
Illuminatus
There's no concrete link between ANYTHING you listed and a god.
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Atheism: Inside Out.
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mickiel
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Explination is a proof of God to me. All of us must consider the whats and whys of Life. As I considered them, nothingelse came even close to " Explaining" much of it to me, than the Bible did. It just explained most things I was and am considering, it put backbone and meat on them. Explination helps to make things Clear, it shows the meaning or reason.
Now the bible is a gigantic lifelong study, and its explinations to me have been continual, and I don't think I am anywhere near its " Offering Potential in Understanding." It is constantly " Expounding Life to me", and I see no end to its incredible knowledge. Its Power to explain.
And I want to go into that.
Peace.
mr.guy
crapsack
What's mythical fragmented? Seriously.
Originally Posted by mickiel
The genuis of it.
Hell no, we're just gettin' started.
mickiel
Well-Known Member
They are not yet unified in their thinking, or in their ranks. But that will change. Its a myth that there is no God, a myth surrounded by the proof that it is. But when your mind is loosely knit around something, your basically building as you go.
And I want to go into that.
Peace.
Amill
Apikoros
No one is unified in thought.... We all simply have our own beliefs and we categorize them under certain labels. There's no reason to think atheists would be able to explain atheism other than it's simple definition of "no belief in god". And ranks within atheism? What the hell are you talking about.
mickiel
Well-Known Member
I think any group should be able to explain their views, I just happen to notice that Atheist cannot, to my satisfaction. The reason being is that the myth is still too fragmented and loose. Oh strong enough to garner belief in it, but still too weak to formulate its own canons and archives. But I think it will do that, just not today.
The temptation will be too great to ignore, Atheist will unite, just as most other groups which swell in members have done, Atheist will be no exception. One Atheist can change this, just one with far more insight than the others. And I think God will provide that one, which I have private speculations on. He will form the ranks.
We'll just have to wait and see, but its how I think it will occur.
Peace.
Amill
Apikoros
Why the hell would atheists form canons and archives?:sleep: That's like asking general theists without religious affiliations and deists to make holy books, why would we expect this of them? And what would an atheist book be like? Lol...
mickiel
Well-Known Member
Why did the Klan form their group, and design uniforms and written material? Why did some masterbators in America form a group which had conventions and designed rings to wear on their fingers? Why did a group of older men who wanted only young boys sexually form a group that had officers and parafanellia?
The causes may seem weird or wrong to others, but that didnot stop them. They believed! They believed in their cause, no matter how perverted it was.
Peace.
Amill
Apikoros
But the klan wasn't a unification of all racist protestants... Just as the masterbator convention wasn't attended by all masterbators. Those groups didn't represent all the people that shared the same ideas or activities now did they. There may very well be groups of atheists who get together or have texts but that's not a unification of atheists. Atheists have many different and sometimes opposing views about the Universe and religions, there's no real reason to think they'll all join together and form some kind of religious group with texts and junk.
I've never heard of deists or pantheists, ect, all unifying together with canons or holy books, I see no reason to think atheists wouldn't be the same way.
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mickiel
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I think they will. The nucleus of it is probally germinating even now. When you have all the parts of a body, all it needs is a head. Once it gets the head, the whole picture is now different, because now it has Conscious leadership. Atheism has no Conscious leadership, only individual acceptence.
It already has a very big growing body Amill, if it gets a head on it, its going to be quite different.
Peace.
mickiel
Well-Known Member
One thing which is often very hard to do, is to get others to " Think with you." And a much more harder thing to do is too think ahead, and try to get others to think with you. I think one error I have in communication, is that I will jump ahead very often, and not think about leaving the person I am discussing things with, I assume they can go with me, yet often some cannot.
And this is what I am doing, as I look at Atheism, inside out. I am going way back in time, using the present, and leaping into the future, phaseing in and out of Atheism.
And I want to continue on that.
Peace.
mr.guy
crapsack
Can you highlight a single incentive for an atheist to do so?
Seriously.
While i completely respect that you prefer to debate with yourself, i'm curious as to how you've formulated this perception of a centralized "atheist movement".
With such a tiny, insignificant commonality, why should we all think the same?
Think about it.
Me: there's no god. What now/
Me: Fuk, i don't know.
Myth of fingerprints.
Easily the dumbest thing i've heard all week. And i watch alot of youtube links from ED.
"loosely knit"? What does that mean?
Would you prefer to tell us that atheist aren't going to be stalin, mao or hitler? New strategy.
However, your mistake is in assuming that atheists are naturally free of ideology; this is mercilessly untrue.
They're as succeptible as anyone else, save that they have less imaginary friends.
Another strawman; not even coherent, either.
Originally Posted by mickiel
The genuis of it.
Peacewise
Active Member
LOL. Sorry.
Does there need to be a qualification? Christians get together and follow a holy book. There certainly is fragmentation with Christianity, yet the various beliefs tend to follow a main identified pattern.
Likewise many atheists do follow or claim to follow the scientific methodology.
The 'holy books' the atheists follow are the various text books of science that contain the various accepted Theories of Science, if the atheist can be bothered to read them. Books like Origin of Species, and the various updates of that theory.
The various Scientific theories and models that are accepted as fact or as the current most accurate fact, these are also canons in a scientific context.
Go check out the Richard Dawkins forums if you want to see a group of atheists who are representative of those people who seek to call themselves atheist. This is not a good nor a bad thing, simply an observation that all people do tend to form groups, and often the group if it's ideals are popular enough will tend to form a very much larger group.
Will there ever be a single all encompassing atheist group, I very much doubt it, for it is our observable nature to also exclude others and to notice and highlight differences between people and ideas.
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The Neo Nerd
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mr.guy
crapsack
Well, i guess some guys are just gonna have all the fun now, aren't they?
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
mr.guy
crapsack
Ingrates.
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
Indeed.
Think of all those poor starving children in Africa who have no idea how special they are.
-Q
mickiel
Well-Known Member
You can't get an Atheist to think with you about God, because between their ears, theres nothing there- about God. Its just nothing there, God has wiped them clear of any reality of him, in order for them to do their job.
And I want to go into that.
Peace.