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Can celibacy lead to further problems?

Ori

Angel slayer
I don't believe that humans were meant to stay celibate, though I do respect what people do or do not want to do with themselves.
Do you think that celibacy can lead to other problems, not only physically, but mentally?
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
Not really. There are other ways to release our sexuality without the need for another partner. If pleasing yourself sexually isn't appealing, I am sure there are other mental and physical experiences to indulge and enjoy.
 

Dr. Nosophoros

Active Member
The way I see it, celibacy is the complete opposite of what natural law dictates, we human animals differ from other animals in the sense that we seem to be able to come up with all sorts of ways to reason ourselves into doing that which is completely unnatural- even sometimes enshrining it behind a mask of "wisdom", a way to enlightenment, "holiness" or some type of perverted sense of "purity" (implying the natural is somehow unclean). What is the purpose of the cycle of life if you do not participate in the continuance of it or enjoy one of the greatest pleasures of it?

To each their own, I understand not everybody finds happiness in the same way, but I see no "wisdom", suffering bought "enlightenment", "holiness", or "purity" coming from the denial of the self to one of the strongest and most basic drives of our humanity.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
Dr. Nosophoros said:
The way I see it, celibacy is the complete opposite of what natural law dictates, we human animals differ from other animals in the sense that we seem to be able to come up with all sorts of ways to reason ourselves into doing that which is completely unnatural- even sometimes enshrining it behind a mask of "wisdom", a way to enlightenment, "holiness" or some type of perverted sense of "purity" (implying the natural is somehow unclean). What is the purpose of the cycle of life if you do not participate in the continuance of it or enjoy one of the greatest pleasures of it?

To each their own, I understand not everybody finds happiness in the same way, but I see no "wisdom", suffering bought "enlightenment", "holiness", or "purity" coming from the denial of the self to one of the strongest and most basic drives of our humanity.
as paul writes in his letter to the corinthians - all should remain celibate like me (paul) but those who cannot should re-marry for it is better to marry than to burn with passion

i cannot find the exact wording but ill post it when i find it

i dont think it is unnatural to be celibate - celibacy is a state of mind aswell, and anyoen who can remain celibate for their life (like paul) must have serious self control and i respect that a lot
 

Stormygale

Member
Being raised in a religion that was very strict, and MUCH emphasis put on 'saving sex for marriage' or totally against it at all, I witnessed the after-effects that it has on young people. It makes them more premisc. after they begin to have sex. All the built up aggravation in the mind, comes out in a big rush, sooner or later, and the aftermath is pure 'INTO SEX'. Saving sex is cool, but, some religions and strict parents start at a young age to discoureage any sort of sexual thought to even enter the mind. That has bad consequences! I could not talk about sex to my mother growing up. She had had a bad experience younger in her life with it, and it tabooed her against the topic in general. The trickle down effect was not a trickle at all, but, a full-fledged waterfall that ran her children to the forefront of 'sexual' aggravation.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I think most people in the west have hangups about sex.
Few can discuss it in a grown up way and most are repressed to some extent.
We are taught that sex is wrong , that sex is dirty, is bad for you.it is unhealthy,and will lead us astray.
No wonder when it is our turn to be Adult and for sex to be part of our lives,
we are full of guilt and it become an act of the night and frankly we are nt that good at it.
Fortunately most of us learn to get over this stage and lead sexually fulfilling lives.
I think very few are naturally celibate,and those that take it on as a duty must have a hard time from their hormones.

Terry
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Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

 

Lloyd

Member
I've practiced celibacy, and more or less am today. From the perspective of non-celibacy it's of course going to look really hard. But from my celibate perspective, what the other 99% of the population does looks exhausting emotionally, and spiritually. Once celibates learn how to discipline their thoughts and become chaste in mind and at heart, then celibacy is a breeze. That can be a little tough at first. But it's not that hard. It just makes for a rough first month or so. All relationships take work. So does this one, except this relationship is with yourself and with God. Like everything else in life it just takes a little discipline. The problem is that the smallest amount of sexual discipline nowadays is derided as "repression."
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
As far as I can see these are the Biblical verses dealing with celibacy:

Jeremiah
16:1 The word of the LORD came also unto me, saying,
16:2 Thou shalt not take thee a wife, neither shalt thou have sons or daughters in this place.

the priests ordered King David and his people to abstain from marital relations on the occasion of eating the holy bread
1Samuel
21:4 And the priest answered David, and said, There is no common bread under mine hand, but there is hallowed bread; if the young men have kept themselves at least from women.
21:5 And David answered the priest, and said unto him, Of a truth women have been kept from us about these three days, since I came out, and the vessels of the young men are holy, and the bread is in a manner common, yea, though it were sanctified this day in the vessel.

Matthew
19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

1 Corinthians
7:32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
7:33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.

7:34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
7:35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

Do I think that celibacy can lead to other problems, not only physically, but mentally?

No; celibacy is like any other discipline - it is as unatural as many other disciplines that people follow, for one reason or another.......:)
 
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