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Is Setianism an expression of Thelema?

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
I've only recently been introduced to Setian Philosophy through this forum, but in that time i've had the fortune to have conversed with a number of highly wise and articulate Setians and Satanists.

It has sparked a great deal of meditation on the subject, in particular how it relates to my particular path of Thelema and its associated Hermetic Mysticism.

I knew a little about Satanism. I've read and admire A. Le Vey. The Church was a necessary phenomenon as it served to bring popular culture out of the darkness of Christianity. It surely cannot be denied that Le Vey was influenced with the Thelemic prophet Crowley, and I think AC would have most certainly enjoyed membership in the CoS!! ;)
The Church looks like a lot of fun - and it has the Thelemic philosophy of Do what thou wilt at its heart - but for me personally as a particularly mystically minded person I always considered it too materialistic, and in some instances a rather reckless expression of The Law. (pls - no offence intended)
It must be noted that the true essence of Thelema is Do what thou wilt and nothing else. The Thelemite is restricted to do his Will and that alone - he therefore aspires to conquor Desire in service of Will.

I believe this is where Satanism and Thelema part company.

Now I hear that a man named Aquino took Le Vey's system and received instruction to form a mystic school with it at its foundation. The Temple of Set.

At this point it was necessary to compare this new mystic system with its apparent predecessor. The Temple of Set and the Great White Brotherhood.


The Temple of Set recognise the concept of Xeper: 'becoming'. Becoming Xeper 'is' identical with the Thelemic mystial experience of Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel. It sounds like the same process: The aspirant must master all aspects of his psyche - his material world, his subconsious, his actions and his thoughts, only then can he become his perfected self.

After accomplishing the True Will (Xeper?) You aspire to the Prince of Darkness, we aspire to the Mother of Abominations, Babalon the Sacred Whore.

This is interesting... for us the Holy Guardian angel is the Prince... The Prince is symbolic of the Sun - a Star. After become the brightest possible star the Adept wills to become one with Our Lady: [edit: see later posts for explanation of this]



What I want to discuss is this:
Is Setianism really a new Aeon - Or is it just the other side of the same COIN

Could they possibly be the Left and Right lanes of the LHP?
 
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Kenaz

I Am
After accomplishing the True Will (Xeper?) You aspire to the Prince of Darkness, we aspire to the Mother of Abominations, Babalon the Sacred Whore.

This is interesting... for us the Holy Guardian angel is the Prince... The Prince is symbolic of the Sun - a Star. After become the brightest possible star the Adept wills to become one with Our Lady:

"Xeper is the experience of an individual psyche becoming aware of its own existence and deciding to expand and evolve that existence through its own actions. Xeper has been experienced by anyone who has decided to seek after his or her own development." - Xeper.org - Library
I can only speak for my own views and practices, but I do not personally hold that there is any universal or absolute "True Will" in an objective sense that one must be 'in-line' with (assuming this is what you mean). Rather, through Xeper (in this sense of the word, defined above) we can realize our potential, that "what-ought-to-be" ahead of us. We see the horizon ahead; and we then Work toward bringing it into being. To then bring about change in accordance with one's own Will (Magic).

"The dawn is symbolic of the way the world is perceived. Unlike the followers of conventional religion who posses guidebooks that explain the world away, the Seeker after Xeper is looking for an intensification of his or her own Being so that the world may be made intelligible in his or her own light. In this darkling universe there are no lights save for those you create through your hard work, your spiritual rebellion, your seeking after the mysteries of your own choosing. When that light dawns, it will by its very nature not only give you moments of clarity about the things in your life closest to you, it will likewise show you new horizons—horizons for you and you alone to explore." - Xeper.org - Library
Again, for me personally (and everyone may view/work with the concept differently), the Prince of Darkness is the "first of Darkness." Darkness representing the limitless of "what-could-be." The source of the psyche, the "Gift of Set", that allows us to have what we can call an Isolate Intelligence/Consciousness. It is not something we look to "merge" with or "become one" with, but rather the First Form/Principle of said Isolate Intelligence. What allows us to have a Subjective Universe. Set/Prince of Darkness, being the "God" of the Subjective Universe.

Reference to SU/OU views: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/1939946-post34.html

More later.. have to run. Hope this was communicated ok? Again, these views and interpretations are mine alone, and although many may share them, I am not claiming they are the only ways to view this framework concept, merely ones that work for *me* quite well. :yes::cool:
 
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Kay

Towards the Sun
I have nothing to add and know that I could just click the "subscribe to thread" button without saying anything, but decided instead to at least speak up and say that what both of you have said here interests me greatly.

And with that I'll go back to lurking ...

:cool:
 

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
I can only speak for my own views and practices, but I do not personally hold that there is any universal or absolute "True Will" in an objective sense that one must be 'in-line' with (assuming this is what you mean). Rather, through Xeper (in this sense of the word, defined above) we can realize our potential, that "what-ought-to-be" ahead of us. We see the horizon ahead; and we then Work toward bringing it into being. To then bring about change in accordance with one's own Will (Magic).


No, no the True Will is unique to each person. Each person has his/her own Holy Guardian Angel - a metaphor for knowing and doing ones own True Will or 'reason d'etre'. The particular purpose for their present incarnation.

There's no Universal Will - Like a divine plan of some sort. The only Absolute Will might be the Will to Create? Or the Will to existance perhaps..?

The only Will the Thelemic Magician is concerned with is his own.
 
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Octavia156

OTO/EGC
Again, for me personally (and everyone may view/work with the concept differently), the Prince of Darkness is the "first of Darkness." Darkness representing the limitless of "what-could-be." The source of the psyche, the "Gift of Set", that allows us to have what we can call an Isolate Intelligence/Consciousness. It is not something we look to "merge" with or "become one" with, but rather the First Form/Principle of said Isolate Intelligence. What allows us to have a Subjective Universe. Set/Prince of Darkness, being the "God" of the Subjective Universe.

Yes, similarly - Babalon, Our Lady the Sacred Whore is the Black Goddess of Binah - she is the womb of potential - the totality of 'what could be'. She is also the source of all manifestion. Similar no?

What allows us to have a subjective Universe is the interplay between her and the God that is Man.
This is the highest form of sexual magick, upon which all Thelemic principle is based.

The Book of the Law explains this: Nuit is the Goddess of infinite Space - She is Nothingness. Hadit is a point in that infinity. It is the interplay between infinite potential and a single point therein that creates RaHoorKuit - a star...an HGA
(a Xeper?)

This is an example of dilectic motion - Thesis + Antithesis --> Synthesis. Its the triad of becoming.
 
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Octavia156

OTO/EGC
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This is interesting... for us the Holy Guardian angel is the Prince... The Prince is symbolic of the Sun - a Star. After become the brightest possible star the Adept wills to become one with Our Lady

This is poor use of language considering the topic. I do not mean this in the Yogic sense, this is becoming one' in a sexual sense '

Union with Our Lady is synonomous with the 'One to Many, Many to the One' principle.

Babalon the Sacred Whore is One and Man is the Many. This is manifested every moment in the process of creation - One Egg, Many sperm.

One inifnite potential - Many stars therein.
 

Kenaz

I Am
Octavia-

Thank you for taking the time to post this. It is certainly very interesting how these are two different systems, with really a very similar effect. I've shared my own personal experience and perception of the Setian philosophy, and you have indeed shared yours. I am looking forward to some others who are more 'Adept' and have more time Working within the AEon of Set to share their own views, and on the contrast we both have composed.

Thanks for this thread, by the way. Very interesting stuff. As I think I've mentioned to you before, I quite enjoy the concepts of Thelema for use in my SU and it had a big part in my previous studies and application in the past.


-JWG
 

ktf

Member
I recently watch a short video on youtube regarding the TOS. In the video the idea of the Aeon of Set is contrasted with Crowley's idea of an Aeon occuring over a long period of time and being something that has a profound effect on huge numbers of people. Here is a link to the video
[youtube]j6QO3yMl9g4[/youtube]
YouTube - The Temple of Set

to summarize the argument: we are still in the early stage of the Aeon of Horus. The principals of this Aeon are only now beginning to be felt outside of the narrow occult circles. The Aeon of Satan and the Aeon of Set are not Aeons in the sense that Crowley used the term.

Now I do not know enough about the concepts of Aeons to say whether I agree with the argument or not. However, it does seem strange that the Aeon of Satan would last barely 10 years before the advent of a whole new Aeon. I also think that if there "is" (thanks for the e-prime reminder my friend) an Aeon of Set it would be something felt among larger groups of people.
There also seems to be a huge difference in the ways the heralds of the Aeon of Horus and the Aeon of Set have gone about proclaiming the Aeon. Both Crowley and Aquino started religions based on the respective Aeons. Crowley seems to have devoted his life to "spreading the word" about the Aeon of Horus whereas Aquino appears to be content to attempt to confine the develop the Aeon to a very small group of initiates who subscribe to the religion of Setianism. It would be interesting to know whether or not the TOS thinks that the Aeon of Set will be active among people outside of the Temple.
 

Kenaz

I Am
Concerning AEons, particularly how the Temple of Set views them:

Although the majority of us look with a bit of disfavor on structuring, it remains a fact that each Aeon, this one included, operate within the framework of a certain necessary structuring. The Aeon of Set, and particularly its Temple, function by frames of reference through which certain words have certain meanings and thereby allow Initiates to comprehend magical and philosophical theory and practice. Some of the most powerful of all these tools are Words; ie, those singular expressions of points in time and space of both the Aeon and personal magical initiatory progress. - Xeper.org - Remanifestation: The Power of a Word
The above quote from the Temple of Set's website defines an AEon essentially as, "frames of reference through which certain words have certain meanings and thereby allow Initiates to comprehend magical and philosophical theory and practice."

As far as how the Thelema (AEon of Horus) views the concept AEons, I do not know. But as for the Temple of Set, the above defines it quite well in respects to how they may view it, and how I personally view it. To me, and I think many among the Temple (not all) would agree, that AEons appear to them not as something strictly linear and fixed at a given time but rather many existing at the same time. So you can have people Working in and empowering the AEon of Horus via Thelemic philosophy and practice and their respective organizations, while you have at the same time a group of individuals Working in and empowering the AEon of Set via the Setian philosophy and practice and the organization of the Temple of Set. Perhaps those who define themselves as practicing Abrahamic faiths may appear as Working within and empowering the AEon of Osiris, et al.

*Disclaimer: My views and perspectives only, I do not speak for any other individual's or organization's views on the matter officially.
 

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
As far as how the Thelema (AEon of Horus) views the concept AEons, I do not know. But as for the Temple of Set, the above defines it quite well in respects to how they may view it, and how I personally view it. To me, and I think many among the Temple (not all) would agree, that AEons appear to them not as something strictly linear and fixed at a given time but rather many existing at the same time. So you can have people Working in and empowering the AEon of Horus via Thelemic philosophy and practice and their respective organizations, while you have at the same time a group of individuals Working in and empowering the AEon of Set via the Setian philosophy and practice and the organization of the Temple of Set. Perhaps those who define themselves as practicing Abrahamic faiths may appear as Working within and empowering the AEon of Osiris, et al.
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This is interesting and I agree - Abrahamic religions are working in the Aeon of Osiris (which is why they seem so outdated to us!) I like you idea that it might not be linear... I think it perhaps is linear for the most part - but with overlaps perhaps?

For Thelemites: the Aeons represent specific stages in human evolution and cognition.

This Aeon on Horus was preceeded by the Aeon of Osiris and before that of Isis.

The Aeon of Isis was the period when we worshipped Mother Earth. Nature, the Goddess Geo-worship. When we found agriculture we suddenly became more reliant on the Sun. We began to worship the Sun as the Dying-God. One that died every day and was ressurected every morning. Geocentric-Solar worship This is the Aeon of Osiris. During this Aeon we have worshipped the concept of a dying god - this evolved from Sun gods into figures such as Jesus.

The Book of Law signified the new Aeon of Horus. Horus in Egyptian mythos was the only god who was born of a Human father. Human god-head.
Thus the Aeon of Horus symbolises the spiritual evolution of man into a new age of becoming God. It is considered Helio-centric - we no longer worship the dying Sun - for we are the Sun and we recognise it is living even whilst it is invisible to us. Hence "Everyman and every woman is a star".
 

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
I recently watch a short video on youtube regarding the TOS. In the video the idea of the Aeon of Set is contrasted with Crowley's idea of an Aeon occuring over a long period of time and being something that has a profound effect on huge numbers of people. Here is a link to the video
[youtube]j6QO3yMl9g4[/youtube]
YouTube - The Temple of Set

to summarize the argument: we are still in the early stage of the Aeon of Horus. The principals of this Aeon are only now beginning to be felt outside of the narrow occult circles. The Aeon of Satan and the Aeon of Set are not Aeons in the sense that Crowley used the term.

Now I do not know enough about the concepts of Aeons to say whether I agree with the argument or not. However, it does seem strange that the Aeon of Satan would last barely 10 years before the advent of a whole new Aeon. I also think that if there "is" (thanks for the e-prime reminder my friend) an Aeon of Set it would be something felt among larger groups of people.
There also seems to be a huge difference in the ways the heralds of the Aeon of Horus and the Aeon of Set have gone about proclaiming the Aeon. Both Crowley and Aquino started religions based on the respective Aeons. Crowley seems to have devoted his life to "spreading the word" about the Aeon of Horus whereas Aquino appears to be content to attempt to confine the develop the Aeon to a very small group of initiates who subscribe to the religion of Setianism. It would be interesting to know whether or not the TOS thinks that the Aeon of Set will be active among people outside of the Temple.

Thank you for this, kft... i'd not really considered how the ToS was actually confined in this way - though it is the case with true mystical orders - that they are non-evangelical and consist of a small group of members. We have this in Thelema too, in the form of the Great White Brotherhood of the A.'.A.'.. This is the highly esoteric side of Thelema. Our exoteric manifestion is OTO.

You can liken the ToS and the A.'.A.'. They have a similar grade structure with identical titles (but not quite identical tasks...)- We have 10 degrees corresponding exactly to the Qabalistic Tree of Life. I'm not sure what system the 6 degrees of the ToS correspond to?


You might compare the CoS and OTO... although OTO practise is at times highly Satanic ;) It has Order and Discipline at its core. True Freedom requires some restriction. This is lacking in Satanism as far as I'm aware.

I fear how The Law can so easily misunderstood :(
 

Kenaz

I Am
Octavia-

If you would like a thorough and well-understood view of the Temple and their philosophy I'd advise if you have the time and patience; to start reading the available content that touches deeply on it.

Below is a good source to start and are the "meat and bones" of both the history and philosophy/method of the Temple of Set. It is certainly not something that will take a single seating to read, let alone grasp! He he.

http://www.xeper.org/maquino/nm/TOSd9.pdf
 

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
Thank you JWG

That is a useful doc for my research.

Ideally though I'm interested in hearing what practising Setians themselves think, rather than attempting to compare texts.

It would be nice to be able discuss the possibility of some sort of mutual recognition between Setians and Thelemic mystics.

What practises we feel are in fact equivalent - merely veiled in different terminology. Is our Truth identical?

If not how and where is it specifically different? What do our schools have in common and what makes them distinct?

There is also a specific link between our Orders - that of Brother Kenneth Anger - who I understand is a member of OTO and ToS...
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Hi Octavia,

You already know how I feel about Setian philosophy. To me this is the Aeon of Set. The Aeon of Horus is over, though its influence still effects us today. The Age of Satan is over, though we still feel its effects upon us today. All Aeonic Words from Thelema to Xeper are gifts of knowledge from the Prince of Darkness that help guide us towards Self-Completion. They are guide posts which show us the direction of self-directed self-change.

1. Thelema= True Will. The Magician must seek after, find, and actualize their True Will.
2. Indulgence= the Word of Freedom which frees us to uncover our True Will selfeshly. And frees humanity from the word of Restriction that we may explore self-introspection without guilt. In the words of Roman Castevet - "God is dead!"
3. Xeper= is the Key towards actualizing the Truth of our own Being.
4. Remanifestation= is that which enables us to continuously Work towards Self-Completion.
5. Runa= Mystery. Runa is that which Inspires us to continuously strive towards Becoming our True Will. In a sense it is the Black Flame, the energizing force of the Will to Come Into Being.
6. Entelecheia= Self-Completion, the Actualization of the Absolute Mind and Will hidden deep within the potential of the Higher Self. Entelecheia answers the question of where Xeper is leading us. Even though Entelecheia is not yet officially an Aeon Enhancing Word, the time will come, I think, when it will become Recognized as such. I have a feeling a prominent Magister within the ToS will Become it's Magus V*.

"The day of the cross and the trinity is done! I great wheel with angles in dimensions unrecognized, save by the Children of Set, fills the void and becomes as the sun in the Firmament of Wrath!" - Anton LaVey

Xeper!
/Adramelek\
 
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ktf

Member
Octavia156,

Yes, you make an interesting comparison. Actually Dr. Aquino had at one point planned to re-form the A.A. as an Order within the TOS. Part of his idea was that the Priesthood of Set would eventually recognize members of this new A.A. as a Priesthood of Horus and that at this point the group would split from the TOS completely. I am not sure that this ever came to anything but who knows, it could still be an ongoing project.

In my opinion one of the really interesting things about the A.A. as concieved by A.C. is that it was secret without having any secrets. All of the curriculum was declared publicly. All of the Work was up to the student. There was no secret knowledge to be doled out. And yet, it remains one of the truely mysterious of the Mystery Schools. Is it still around? Who knows. Are the groups that represent as A.A. authentic? Who knows. However, the cirriculum is still public knowledge. Any interested, dedicated person can pick it up and attempt the work. Perhaps that means the A.A. lives as long as people continue the Work.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Octavia156
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Yes, you make an interesting comparison. Actually Dr. Aquino had at one point planned to re-form the A.A. as an Order within the TOS. Part of his idea was that the Priesthood of Set would eventually recognize members of this new A.A. as a Priesthood of Horus .

Actually there is an new Order of the Temple called the Order of Horus. I could be wrong but I think the Order is reserved for Initiates of the Magistrate IV*, Magi V*, and Ipsissimi VI*. Details about the O.'.H.'. can be found on the ToS website www.xeper.org.

/Adramelek\
 

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
Octavia156,


All of the Work was up to the student. There was no secret knowledge to be doled out. And yet, it remains one of the truely mysterious of the Mystery Schools. Is it still around? Who knows. Are the groups that represent as A.A. authentic? Who knows. However, the cirriculum is still public knowledge. Any interested, dedicated person can pick it up and attempt the work. Perhaps that means the A.A. lives as long as people continue the Work.


Arguably yes you could pick up the Curriculum of the A.'.A.'. and work through it - and have complete success in the Ordeals and attain the highest initiations. However traditionally a master is required to validate the work of his student, and also to perform initiations and conferrals. There also comes a point where an Adept cannot fully claim higher degrees until he has raised his student to the grade of Adept. Thus the chain of student-teacher is intrinsic to the path.

There are many active A.'.A.'. lines... some more public than others.

The inclusion of the AA work within the ToS does work with the grades of IV and above. There's reference to this correspondence in the text linked above. Interesting stuff.
 

Octavia156

OTO/EGC
Hi Octavia,

You already know how I feel about Setian philosophy. To me this is the Aeon of Set. The Aeon of Horus is over, though its influence still effects us today. The Age of Satan is over, though we still feel its effects upon us today. All Aeonic Words from Thelema to Xeper are gifts of knowledge from the Prince of Darkness....

Xeper!
/Adramelek\

Can you therefore explain what is different bout the New Aeon of Set comapred to the Aeon of Horus - what makes it 'new'? What of the 'old' is not valid anymore?

(I think we may be getting to the crux of the argument here....)

I appreciate the significance of the Word - "Xeper" - Like Thelema was a word that signified the Aeon of Horus and I recognise and value its relevance and importance.

For the reception of a Word and the subsequent establishment of a school centered around this word - I could argue Aquino was an Magus 9=2 in the A.'.A.'. fulfilling the role of Magister 8=3 who's entitlement is to form a new school based on the Word he is actualising.


Essentially with all my research so far I'm yet to find a explanation of what makes Setianism distinctly different in its philosophy from the mysticism taught through the Law of Thelema and Crowley's Great White Brotherhood
Setianism should be able to explain exactly how its Word and Philosophy has replaced the Old Aeon of Horus - what conditions made it necessary i.e. in what way was Thelema incomplete that it was succeeded by 'Xeper'?

Until I can see anything unique in Setianism that cannot be explained in thelemic philosophy and terminology and any process of initiation that cannot be indentified in Crowleyan practise then the assertion that the Aeon of Set is a new Aeon (and not another beautiful expression of an already perfect philosophy) for me is invalid.

Thanks to all for your continuing contibutions to this thread :)
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Kenaz

I Am
The issue spawns from the assumption that Aeons (definition is not absolute, mind you) are in fact linear and that only one can be in effect at a time. For me, I'd argue that simple observation that there are millions of world-views and ways of working with our sense of reality and our practices at this very moment is evidence that there is no "one single" Aeon that is in effect. Perhaps a general system of modeling and working with our view of reality and our role in it may be dominant, but I can't be intellectually honest with myself and the observations I see in the world and also claim that there is a single and absolute Aeon (again, the definition is subjective and not not absolute/objective either) that is in existence and none other.

I'd argue that we're getting trapped in our own models of reality, arguing over the model and not the thing it is trying to work with, etc. "The Map is not the Territory", "The Menu is not the Meal", etc. Furthermore, why do we need to assume one single model of anything has to be "the one." Yes, some are more "truthful" or successful than others in the sense; but the essence of that "truthfulness" or success from using that 'model' is not from the model itself, but where it "leads you" so to speak.

Just my view on it, though.
 
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Octavia156

OTO/EGC
The issue spawns from the assumption that Aeons (definition is not absolute, mind you) are in fact linear and that only one can be in effect at a time. For me, I'd argue that simple observation that there are millions of world-views and ways of working with our sense of reality and our practices at this very moment is evidence that there is no "one single" Aeon that is in effect. Perhaps a general system of modeling and working with our view of reality and our role in it may be dominant, but I can't be intellectually honest with myself and the observations I see in the world and also claim that there is a single and absolute Aeon (again, the definition is subjective and not not absolute/objective either) that is in existence and none other.

I'd argue that we're getting trapped in our own models of reality, arguing over the model and not the thing it is trying to work with, etc. "The Map is not the Territory", "The Menu is not the Meal", etc. Furthermore, why do we need to assume one single model of anything has to be "the one." Yes, some are more "truthful" or successful than others in the sense; but the essence of that "truthfulness" or success from using that 'model' is not from the model itself, but where it "leads you" so to speak.

Just my view on it, though.

I agree and disagree with you here.
You are certainly correct to point out the map is not the territory. My prophet describes it like a man chancing upon a signpost to London, who climbs the signpost in stead of following where it points.

Each system is a signpost. They all point from different places and follow different paths, but they all point to the same destination. All roads lead to Rome.


However if you apply this concept to Aeons... then you could argue that the final destination shifts.

Like you, I see many different reality tunnels and millions of individual universes. How can it be possible to say all those tunnels are under the influcence of an over-arching Aeon?

The way is can be possible is this: The Aeons are linked to human-consciousness evolution - this is what creates the illusion of linearity.

I can see three stages in Western evolution: from what I know of history and science. I am not qualified to talk about the East, but I would be happy to accept that a different Aeonic progression occured in Eastern thought - though I'd be willing to bet it either mirrors or perfectly reflects it somehow

Pre-agriculture - We relied on Mother Earth for our survival. Worship of natural gods and the Goddess. Worship of the Fertile Woman - from whom came life.
Liber Al names this the Aeon of Isis - but the poetic name is and egyptian link is arbitary. It was our religio-maternal stage.

The evolutional paradigm shift into civilisations marked a new Aeon. By this point we had basic agriculture - and with it came a new reliance - the Sun.

As this New Aeon progressed (as civilisations evolved) - worship shifted from Mother Earth to Father Sun. As a result our reality shifted from something that was Eternal and everlasting to something that would disappear every day and slowly get lower in the sky as the year went on.

Our religious focus lended itself more and more to the concept of appeasing these dying-Sun gods - for fear it may never rise again!

In the later stages of the Aeon, in some reality tunnels the dying Sun became the dying Son.
The Abrahamic religions took the energies of the Aeon to its extreme with Monotheism - worshipping the Father and the Father alone - who must be appeased for fear he may not 'ressurect' you. Liber Al identifies this Aeon as that of Osiris - the dying God. The masculine Father - the religio-paternal


Now this new Aeon - this brand new Aeon of Horus - (don't forget: the name is irrelevant -call it Aeon Gamma if you like) supposedly demonstrates the throwing off of the shackles of Father Worship - the abolishment of the idea of the Dying god (we now know the Sun doesn't die - we merely turn) and the reinstatement of the Feminine. Heliocentric realisation

Ok so I look at recent history and I see: The birth of the Method of Science in opposition to the Church. Galileo and Copernicus were the first prophets of the New Aeon. As the Aeon of Osiris came to is conclusion, Science was providing new answers, Monotheism was losing its appeal. Industry had replaced agriculture. Sun was not so important... we'd found stored Sun ;)

If you had accepted Liber AL, then you are of the belief that Aeon of Osiris came to an end in 1904.
But **** us Thelemites... look for yourselves: Around 1900 the world changed - Theory of Relativity - Quantum Mechanics - Digitalism not to mention - TWO WORLD WARS and lots more to follow - Feminism - 60s - Space Travel

It can't be denied this paradigm shift was happening globally.

So now who do we worship?

Money? Dawkins? Tom Cruise?

Lets look at the signposts:

In the Aeon of Isis it pointed to The Ancestors and regeneration within the Earth.*

In the Aeon of Osiris it pointed to a Heaven (or Hell) - The Afterlife*

In the Aeon of Horus it points to Your Perfected Self - The realisation of Human Godhead.*
* forgive my attempt at being as simplisitc as possible here

People around the world are following one of these different signposts - (actually most of us today haven't even noticed there is a signpost:eek:,others just can't read it :cover:, others well, :thud:)


Most importantly the Law of the new Aeon is Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

It doesn't say IS the law, it say shall be.

Thus the work of the Aeon of Horus is to manifest the Law of Do what thou wilt - and the concept of Man as a god

I see that Satanism/Setianism is helping to bring about this law - and is playing a vital part in manifesting this important new Aeon - one that is such a baby on the grand scale of time - it needs as many lightbarers as possible to ward off the darkschackles of Monotheistic oppression - and free mankind from the slavery of Osirian beliefs once and for all.


Its also why I can't get on board with the idea of Set being a new Aeon - rather it is a system of this Aeon.
 
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