What is the biggest scam in world history?

xkatz said:

To add on to "6000 year earth creation",

It's a TOTAL scam. It would be impossible for Earth to be 6000 years old because the Earth was formed by many masses colliding and mixing to make one singular mass. These individual pieces of the Earth colliding caused a lot of energy to be unleashed as heat (ie magma) and it took millions if not billions of years for the surface to be cool enough to have liquid water and thus be able to support life. If the Earth was 6000 years it would be 1) A lot smaller and 2) A lot more dangerous

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Man of Faith said:

Is it evolution? I think so and I’m going to take my home and pretend it is the earth for a demonstration on how the ToE has been propagated to a duped world. From this demonstration we can see that from a preconceived notion we can find evidence for things that we want to accept and how we can suppress other things we don't want to accept.

For many years I believed my home to be created by an intelligent being along with all that is in it, the furniture, appliances and documents. Then let’s say someone comes in my home and says that some of my furniture exploits different niches and they say that it looks like it evolved that way. They go a little further and say that if they evolved that way then maybe everything evolved from a common ancestor. You have a chair that has short legs which exploits the living room environment and a chair that has long legs which is good for that tall table. They tell someone else then others and eventually these people are called evolutionists. Now these evolutionists get together and say, you know if evolution is true then we should be able to predict certain things about that home, furniture, appliances and documents.

For one they should be homologous. Well the chairs all have four legs and soft cushions in the same location. The appliances look similar a toaster and blender are the same color and about the same size and all those documents look similar with writing on them. They prove to be homologous which validates evolution. They should be made from the same material. The chair and couch are the same, the appliances are metal and plastic, and the documents are all paper. They prove to be made of the same material which validates evolution again.

Now that our ToE has been validated by science we can label anything else as religion and suppress it. We will get the courts to only allow evolution to be taught to kids. We will draw connecting lines showing all this descent from what we predict each piece came from based on our scientific testing. We have a solid theory and anyone that doesn’t’ believe it must be uneducated, stupid or irrational. We can get owners of other homes to agree with us by labeling people that accept evolution as reasoned and educated. We can even threaten their jobs if they teach creation. They can either voluntarily or forcefully help us propagate this theory, and label any dissenters as religious fanatics.

God Bless
MoF

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Man of Faith said:

What you are saying is the earth cannot be 6000 years old because of the preconceived notion of the natural big bang theory which is a scam also.

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Man of Faith said:

What you are saying is the earth cannot be 6000 years old because of the preconceived notion of the natural big bang theory that is a scam also.

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tumbleweed41 said:

Another cop out.
Read it again. You claim evolutionary biology is a scam.

Now, back up your claim or admit you have no basis for it.

Give an example of a currently accepted scientific conclusion about biological evolution that is the result of ignoring overwhelming evidence.

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MysticSang'ha said:

Uh, no. How about we start with Neolithic cultures such as the Mehrgarh, pre-Dynastic Egypt, the Peiligang culture in Xinzheng (China), and not to mention the Sumerian civilization.

That's a start.

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Man of Faith said:

What you are saying is the earth cannot be 6000 years old because of the preconceived notion of a naturalistic big bang which is just another part of the scam.

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xkatz said:

Then would you care to explain how you think the Earth is created?

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xkatz said:

Then would you care to explain how you think the Earth is created?

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itwillend said:

I am shocked at the simple-mindedness of people, I mean utterly shocked when someone can take a stance so rigid about something so unprovable, it is simply mind blowing. It is also frightening, because I know my kids are out in the world having to interact with people like that.

Wow, just wow...

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xkatz said:

Then would you care to explain how you think the Earth is created?

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Man of Faith said:

Here is the issue, one side suppression the other side. I can sit here all day and say the world was created by an intelligence and you can say it was a natural process. However in the mainstream scientific and educational communities I can't say the world was created by an intelligence, that is suppressed by decree. That is how the scam works, it won't allow a head to head debate of the controversy, it won't allow the free flow of information.

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Man of Faith said:

My sources say there was plenty of room.

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The last time I went and heard Ken Ham speak he said "why did he make the ark so big"?

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Man of Faith said:

Here is the issue, one side suppression the other side. I can sit here all day and say the world was created by an intelligence and you can say it was a natural process. However in the mainstream scientific and educational communities I can't say the world was created by an intelligence, that is suppressed by decree. That is how the scam works, it won't allow a head to head debate of the controversy, it won't allow the free flow of information.

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MysticSang'ha said:

Here's the thing, though, MoF: the concept of Intelligent Design is not falsifiable. There isn't anything that can be tested in order to see if it can be ruled out.

Evolutionary biology has been tested, re-tested, verified, and continually verified by the use of it's models over and over again in so many different fields of the natural sciences that it's proven it's applicability way beyond a simple hypothesis.

How can one test Intelligent Design to see if it can be ruled out or falsified? Answer that question, and then I can see it being introduced into a legitimate scientific discussion. As it stands now, no dice.

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mball1297 said:

Ah, yes, the conspiracy. You can bring up whatever you want to scientists. Go right ahead. They're not going to take you seriously unless there is some way to test your idea. It's not "suppression", it's called using the scientific method.

In other words, there is no conspiracy against creationism; it's just not a scientific idea.

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Man of Faith said:

Creationists use the scientific method.

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Willamena said:

I'm confused. How many generations passed since toasters diverged from the blenders?

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