Straight, Gay, or Lying?

I don't think anyone is saying there's something wrong with choice. It's just the research I disagree with. It'd be like determining I'm not lesbian when I don't like most lesbian porn out there... but I'll quite happily be with my girlfriend, thankyouverymuch.

Besides, Isn't lesbian porn aimed more for men than it is for lesbian/bisexual women? Just a random thought there. My ex boyfriend is very into lesbians.. as am I but if there were two kissing in front of me I'd be jealous, not turned on...
Besides I'm all precious and stuff ^.^ Porn makes me nervous and embarrassed.

"Porn makes me nervous and embarrassed." it used to make me feel that way too - which isn't very 'macho' for a man. Now, I just find it thouroughly distasteful.

Say the article has relevance. So people have a choice then? What the heck is wrong with that?

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What's wrong with it is that it means that bisexuals are just 'confused' or 'undecided' or 'too scared to call themselves gay' It would be like me going up to a heterosexual and saying "Sorry, you're in denial, come on, just realize that you're gay. We all know heterosexuality is not a true sexual orientation"

I think that bisexuals have the hardest time of it - often bisexuality is not accepted by heterosexuals OR homosexuals.

Besides, Isn't lesbian porn aimed more for men than it is for lesbian/bisexual women?

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Often, yes.

if there were two kissing in front of me I'd be jealous, not turned on...

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Prima said:

I think that bisexuals have the hardest time of it - often bisexuality is not accepted by heterosexuals OR homosexuals.

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yer - maybe

i think that homosexuals are a lot more open minded htough - so you wouldnt get as much stereotypical prejudice from them as you would get from hetrosexuals

remember - bisexuals have to come out same as homosexuals - they go through the same ordeal of sitting down with parents or guardians and friends etc and telling them - dealing with the awkwardness and arguments that often follow

on the other hand - bisexuals are probably more misunderstood than homosexuals - althoug whenever people tell me they dont understand i offer to draw them a picture - they soon realise im not an alien :biglaugh:

God Bless

I can understand what you are saying Prima - and I can understand the anger and frustration. If I am permitted though - I have never dared ask anyone before, What do you think makes a homosexual, or a bisexual - or a pansexual ?- does it come from the brain? does it come from hormones? - Tell me to mind my own business if you don't wish to answer; I know you weill call a spade a spade............

michel said:

I can understand what you are saying Prima - and I can understand the anger and frustration. If I am permitted though - I have never dared ask anyone before, What do you think makes a homosexual, or a bisexual - or a pansexual ?- does it come from the brain? does it come from hormones? - Tell me to mind my own business if you don't wish to answer; I know you weill call a spade a spade............

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tough question there mate

erm - what makes me gay? i guess id say that my first big crush was my best mate at school - when he left it tore a big gapping hole in me and i got quite depressed - but i started to move on - and after him i started noticing guys more than girls

thats my very brief story - but i supose i loved him more for his personality - and got to like the other attributes as our friendship progressed

but after he left i started to like another guy at college - who was also gay - but got a boyfriend mad::banghead3) but i forgive him lol - but to be perfectlyhonest i just dont see anything appealing about a girls body! no offence ment to anything ive got soem great female friends who i love completely as friends - but ive never ever had any physical feeling for girls im affraid

heres another tough question - would anyone who is homosexual, bisexual, pansexual etc evey change if they could? i know i wouldn't and thats a given - but what do others think

im not gay and i never will be. i thought i was gay for a little while last year, but then i had this great dream where i had sex with this really hot woman. and when i woke up, i was like, wow, im not gay, im straight as can be! I promptly thanked the Force for the dream.

The reason i thought i was gay was probabally because, in fifth grade, i had a crush on this girl, and i told her of my fellings, but i got totally rejected. I was depressed for a while, but then i got over it (around the time of my dream ), and i feel great again.

Corrupt Priest;


Thank you for being so candid. I thought after I had posted my question that maybe it was too out of line and 'invasive'; I am very grateful for your explanation. I suppose that the answe is that a 'straight' person like I am will never be able to get into the mindset of a homosexual or bi-sexual.

This reminds me of another current thread in which 'empathy' was mentioned - I guess this is something about which empathy is impossibel....................

jamaesi said:

It's a load of bull.


I'm bisexual. I'm not "scared of being gay" because I already face the same discrimination against those "icky gay people" because I don't kiss other girls to turn boys on, I actually care about a loving, committed relationship with the other person, male or female. I'm also rather unliked by some gay people and ostracized from some gay communities because I'm "not gay enough." It's like how many homosexuals say they didn't choose to be gay- I didn't choose to be bisexual. I get flack from straight people and gay people. : P

I just care much about gender. If I fall in love with a guy, then so be it. If I fall in love with a girl, then so be. It's about the person inside, not their genitals.

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I have to say that I really appreciate that comment. I have always had an image of bisexuals as confused, selfish people, walking in the middle of the road, afraid to miss out on anything. The way you expressed it was a very valid point.

Thank you

michel said:

"Porn makes me nervous and embarrassed." it used to make me feel that way too - which isn't very 'macho' for a man. Now, I just find it thouroughly distasteful.

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I love to look at women (even though I can't, because I agreed not to with my wife)....the problem I have with porn is that it is so impersonal.....and it reduces appreciation of women down to nothing. No name, no voice, no ideas....just an image. The man matters even less, he is just in the way (straight porn, by the way).

huajiro said:

I love to look at women (even though I can't, because I agreed not to with my wife)....the problem I have with porn is that it is so impersonal.....and it reduces appreciation of women down to nothing. No name, no voice, no ideas....just an image. The man matters even less, he is just in the way (straight porn, by the way).

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I agree, it has all the physical attributes of sex - but without what for me is the essential ingredient - emotional love.

michel said:

Corrupt Priest;


Thank you for being so candid. I thought after I had posted my question that maybe it was too out of line and 'invasive'; I am very grateful for your explanation. I suppose that the answe is that a 'straight' person like I am will never be able to get into the mindset of a homosexual or bi-sexual.

This reminds me of another current thread in which 'empathy' was mentioned - I guess this is something about which empathy is impossibel....................

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yer

but then again - what was the process that lead you to the conclusion that you were sexually attracted to members of the opposite sex?

i absolutley dont mind answering question or anything - i have found that being open is better for everyoen than hiding behind closed doors

empathy is pretty much impossible unless your a pagan empath - but thats for the other thread lol

God Bless

Though many people who know me would shout "No way!!!" at this... I'm not exactly sure of my sexuality, myself. Who knows who is lying and who is definitely sure? What's a one-time thing that goes against what sexuality you claim to be? I think it's easier to "change" your sexuality when you're identifying purely homosexual or heterosexual than when you're bisexual. I mean... It's easier to start loving than to stop once you've found love in a new way, unless you have a bad experience.

Firecat89 said:

Though many people who know me would shout "No way!!!" at this... I'm not exactly sure of my sexuality, myself. Who knows who is lying and who is definitely sure? What's a one-time thing that goes against what sexuality you claim to be? I think it's easier to "change" your sexuality when you're identifying purely homosexual or heterosexual than when you're bisexual. I mean... It's easier to start loving than to stop once you've found love in a new way, unless you have a bad experience.

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in honesty my friend - if you are unsure then take your time and do not rush anything

that is all the advise anyone should give you without putting pressure on you to decide - i prey that you will be free to clarify your thoughts - and remember there is nothing wrong with any choice loving lifestyle

if you wanna talk im only a PM away

God Bless

Well for now I'm merely putting forth an opinion on the thread. Labeling myself = Not good, I know... I'm open to anything