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Bush's comments on London explosions

Original Freak

I am the ORIGINAL Freak
"We will find them, we will bring them to justice, and at the same time, we will spread an ideology of hope and compassion that will overwhelm their ideology of hate,"
http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2005&m=July&x=20050707094319dmslahrellek8.379763e-02&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

In case I've forgotten did they catch Bin Laden yet?

When did fightining terrorist involve a spreading of ideologies? Doesn't this sound a lot like 'spreading the word of Christ'?

"They have such evil in their heart that they will take the lives of innocent folks. The war on terrorism is on," Bush said as news of the blasts trickled into the G8 summit venue.
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200507071940.htm

I thought they already had a war on terrorism?
Havn't some innocent folks died in Iraq?
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Original Freak said:
http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2005&m=July&x=20050707094319dmslahrellek8.379763e-02&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

In case I've forgotten did they catch Bin Laden yet?

When did fightining terrorist involve a spreading of ideologies? Doesn't this sound a lot like 'spreading the word of Christ'?

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200507071940.htm

I thought they already had a war on terrorism?
Havn't some innocent folks died in Iraq?
I must admit that when I saw and heard him say that - it brought a cynical smile to my face ....WE WE shall bring them....; err, he's in the UK now; I wonder if he has forgotten that ? - another of his amusing 'gaffes' was shown this morning, after the G8 'breakfast' meeting; Bush had just finished his little speech about how the differences over the Kyoto agreement were not going to 'come between us', when Blair took the stand, and made his speech. I can't remember a word he said, because both Marie and I were in fits of laughter at the sight of Bush, standing there, like a bored little boy who might well have been thinking about.....anything.......(Or maybe nothing!).

I hope the fact that we, in England, laugh at your American president is not something that you find distasteful...:)
 

Saw11_2000

Well-Known Member
We might not ever find bin Laden, one person in six billion people, the odds are not good at all. We have found quite a few of his top leaders. Like ahh...what's his face. Oh, al-Zawarhi, or whatever it is.

The war on terrorism is "on" right now, I do think he used poor wording. I believe he meant to say "We're coming after these mofos as well."
 

Original Freak

I am the ORIGINAL Freak
If it's the Al-Queda sect that is taking credit (to early to really tell) then shouldn't they already be after them?
 

Ori

Angel slayer
Well, if he really wanted to be rid of terrorism, wouldn't the USA be fighting itself?
 

Saw11_2000

Well-Known Member
Original Freak said:
If it's the Al-Queda sect that is taking credit (to early to really tell) then shouldn't they already be after them?
I believe you said in another post that this "Al-Queda of Europe" group has posted many false responsiblities for attacks.
 

BUDDY

User of Aspercreme
Original Freak said:
http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2005&m=July&x=20050707094319dmslahrellek8.379763e-02&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html

In case I've forgotten did they catch Bin Laden yet?

When did fightining terrorist involve a spreading of ideologies? Doesn't this sound a lot like 'spreading the word of Christ'?

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200507071940.htm

I thought they already had a war on terrorism?
Havn't some innocent folks died in Iraq?
So let me get this straight, a terrorist attack occurs in our friends country with hundred killed or injured, and your focus is to try to take Bush's message and turn it into, "he's trying to spread christianity"? This is ludicrous. I feel sorry for you, I really do. Instead of focusing on your hatred of Bush, why can't we focus on helping these people and doing everything in our power to prevent such incidents, by ending terrorism in the future?
 

Saw11_2000

Well-Known Member
I didn't even notice the part about spreading Christianity. I severely doubt that. Instead of hate...fear...blah blah, he's saying spread love and hope and such. Doesn't sound too Christian-like, it just sounds like regular human morality to me.
 

BUDDY

User of Aspercreme
LoPar said:
What avenues should one pursue to end terrorism? (I am also tired of the 'Bush Bashing)
I have my own opinions, and I am not convinced that I am always right. What I do know is that to get out and do nothing, is not a solution. You can't ignore something and hope it goes away. One side of me says that we should go after them directly, using military force. Another side of me says we should go after them by supporting those governments that already are fighting terrorism in their countries. Much like we supported those who fought against communist aggression. I am not convinced of the right thing to do as I am by no means an expert, but I do know to give up on Iraq and Afganistan right now, would be a collosal failure to everyone in those areas and to our troops on the ground. We must stay strong and finish what we have started.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
EEWRED said:
I have my own opinions, and I am not convinced that I am always right. What I do know is that to get out and do nothing, is not a solution. You can't ignore something and hope it goes away.
I agree to this.

EEWRED said:
One side of me says that we should go after them directly, using military force.
Don't you think there is a risk of creating more terrorism by pursuing military force.

EEWRED said:
Another side of me says we should go after them by supporting those governments that already are fighting terrorism in their countries. Much like we supported those who fought against communist aggression.
Would you support the repressive regimes of Saudi Arabia, Zimbabwe, or Cuba in fighting pro-democratic revolution?
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
EEWRED said:
So let me get this straight, a terrorist attack occurs in our friends country with hundred killed or injured, and your focus is to try to take Bush's message and turn it into, "he's trying to spread christianity"? This is ludicrous. I feel sorry for you, I really do. Instead of focusing on your hatred of Bush, why can't we focus on helping these people and doing everything in our power to prevent such incidents, by ending terrorism in the future?
BRAVO! Very well stated. (I wonder if Kerry and said the exact same words what there people would be saying)
 

john313

warrior-poet
michel said:
I hope the fact that we, in England, laugh at your American president is not something that you find distasteful...:)
i laugh at him as well. i think most people, especially in other countries, laugh at him. maybe he will become a comedian after his term is up.
 
I really wonder if you guys smile each time you see that there has been another death from a terrorist. I get the feeling that you dont want America to win, you just want Bush to lose.
 
I see all the deaths in london right now and all you can say is that you laugh at President Bush. I cant believe what i am reading.
 

Original Freak

I am the ORIGINAL Freak
I don't think I can actually do anything about terrorism sitting here at my computer. I can and did give my opinion about how I can't believe in the cruelty and insanity that goes into a terrorist attack like this.

But I can also make a comment about a man who I think isn't helping the situation any and is making it worst. If Kerry was president and got the world into this situation, I'ld be pissed at him as well.
 

Faminedynasty

Active Member
It's ridiculous that Bush thinks he can (and he has successfully in the past) exploit such tragedies to bolster support for his stances. The fact is, the Bush administration has failed to effectively combat Al Queada and has wasted the military resources that could have in a war in his own interests in Iraq. And these horrible terror attacks in London, Madrid, and Iraq are a monument to his failures and his foolish, selfish priorities.
 
M

Majikthise

Guest
I am an atheist and find Bush's religious comments a non-issue.
 

BUDDY

User of Aspercreme
truthseekingsoul said:
Don't you think there is a risk of creating more terrorism by pursuing military force.
No. Military aggression against terrorism doe not create more terrorism. Terrorists spin and propaganda does.

truthseekingsoul said:
Would you support the repressive regimes of Saudi Arabia, Zimbabwe, or Cuba in fighting pro-democratic revolution?
Not if, in fighting them, they were prone to intentional acts of murder against innocent civilians.
 
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