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Ask, and I will list a list of Biblical Contradictions.And in the original autographs it is the position that there are no erorrs and among the text we have today no contradictions (rather apparent contradiction).
For God so loved the world..... Does that mean that the ones God hates cannot recieve Salvation, even if they believe in Christ as Saviour? Oh wait, God KILLED everyone but Noah and his family. So does God really love the world?No God does not love every human. There are some that He hates.
It's not so amazing you consider the pagans uninformed about Paganism when you consider how much tripe can be found out there put about by people who aren't Pagans but seem to think they know all about it. The contingent of red headed, green skinned, warty nosed, baby eating followers of Hitler (who incidentally , have the combined weight of a duck) who frequent this board are a prime example.Viva said:Brothers and Sisters,
It's amazing how the pagans are not informed regarding their paganism. It is as if you follow weird systems just because nothing is no television or else it feels good.
Hmm, a blinding light where you will never see...that'd be the sun shining out of your arse, wouldn't it?Circle One - I believe that you god/goddess gives you a psuedo type light. Your god is said to do this in 2nd Corinthians 11:14 - but it is a blinding light, where you will never see.
The JW's knocking on my door at 8am on a weekend trying to foist copies of The Watchtower on me against my will makes me uncomfortable...in that **** off you pain in the arse I don't care what you think and I haven't even had a cup of coffee yet, kinda way. It doesn't mean I am shaky in my faith, it means I detest the arrogance of someone who will come up to me and tell me I'm going to a nasty place after I die just because something they THINK they may have read in the equivalent of a bound omnibus of a tabloid newspaper tells them so. It's just plain rude and you were obviously dragged up rather than bought up if you think it isn't.---look, if I was confident in my position, and you had a belief that I was going to hell, this would not shake me. That is the difference between us. Since you are so uncomfortable, this denotes that fact that you are lacking confidence, ,knowledge, and comfort in your position. Believe me - I would too if I were you : )
You mean The Concise but Contradictory Encyclopaedia of Judaic/Christian Myth?---And yes, My God (as found in an Encyclopedia known as the Bible) does not love everybody. He hates some people. See Romans 13:5 along with Proverbs where he hates the wicked and does not hear their prayers. I didn't say it, God said it via the authors of the Divine Encyclopedia (aka Bible).---
God hates me via the scriptures? Good thing I don't read them then, isn't it.Thus is it quite possible via the Scriptures that God may hate you. But I hope otherwise and only time will tell upon the closing of your caskets.
A couple of my friends just happen to be Christian. But what seperates them from the ones like Viva are they are tolerant of other religions, and have intrepretations of the Bible that allows that. Also they don't take the Bible to be the literal word of God.I've met some lovely Christians...unfortunately you weren't one of them.
Dearest Viva, it seems to me that you are, infact, the one here who is unconfident in their beliefs, for if you were confident in them, you wouldn't constantly feel the need to preach at other people and condemn them to hell as a means of justifying your own internal fears regarding the truth (or lack thereof) in your religion.---look, if I was confident in my position, and you had a belief that I was going to hell, this would not shake me. That is the difference between us. Since you are so uncomfortable, this denotes that fact that you are lacking confidence, ,knowledge, and comfort in your position. Believe me - I would too if I were you : )
I'm gonna take a big leap and guess that 'He' happens to hate the same people you hate? (Actually, that may not be the case, and I apologize if it isn't. It just seems that some here who view their diety as hating anyone seem to possess that remarkable coincidence.)Viva said:No God does not love every human. There are some that He hates.
In that, your god seems to lack profoundity. In so far as your god is no better than most humans and less than some humans.Viva said:No God does not love every human. There are some that He hates.
I have been a Christian for quite some time. I think you to go back and read your Bible some more, because one of the many ways people can tell that we are of Christ is through our actions and words. In other words, how we act. Since in every part of our lives we are to resemble Christ in word and deed. So, do you think that telling people they are heathens and that they are going to hell is Christ like?Viva said:Hello EEWRED, : )
Perhaps you are extremely new or else remained as an infant in Christianity. I am NOT trying to convert or preach. This post was simply a way to share my beliefs that the Heathens will be going to hell.
Yes, there is arighteaous judgement. I believe with all of my heart that God will judge the righteous and the unrighteous inlike. Keyword there being God. Not Viva. See the difference? I hope you can keep up.Viva said:You see - there is a righteous judgement and this is my belief (see John 7:24).
By good, I mean decent, frindly, caring, honest, etc. Certainly you know the difference between the the good of God and the good of man? Again, do some studying and get back with me.Viva said:You indicated that you think the people on here are "good" people. This tells me how you may be lacking in your studies. You see the Christian position is that every human is a bad person (evil). Thus there are no good people at all in this world (see Jeremiah 17:9 or Is: 64:4-6).
Funny, I was about to ask the same thing.Viva said:Now perhaps you are spoofing me
No, I am a Christian. But, I would happy to stand with the 'heathen' you refer to and object to your false judgements.Viva said:and may be a Heathen pretending to be a Christian.
Okay, so even those who are christians, if they disagree with your interpretation of the Bible, are heathens? Or, it is okay to jump to a conclusion about someone because they disagree with what you teach? You are going to have to explain this one to me.Viva said:I have no idea, but via some of your comments - I indeed have to wonder
Respectfully,
Viva
So, we are all evil people and you are the only good one? Exactly what you said Viva.You indicated that you think the people on here are "good" people. This tells me how you may be lacking in your studies. You see the Christian position is that every human is a bad person (evil). Thus there are no good people at all in this world (see Jeremiah 17:9 or Is: 64:4-6).
That's the truest thing you've said so far.Viva said:I have no idea...
your ability to take scripture out of context (completely out of context) surprises even meViva said:You indicated that you think the people on here are "good" people. This tells me how you may be lacking in your studies. You see the Christian position is that every human is a bad person (evil). Thus there are no good people at all in this world (see Jeremiah 17:9 or Is: 64:4-6).
umm no, no they are notviva said:---the verses quoted are in reference to unrighteous judgement. Logically righteous judgement is there and allowed via an ultimate authority which you heathens (thinking EEWRED is included here) reject or refuse to submit to.
There was nothing 'emotional' about my response. Maybe you are reading something into it that isn't there. I find it very odd that someone who sincerely wishes to teach salvation to the lost, would come into a sight, and on the very first day, simply say, 'all heathens are going to hell', but not offer a solution. I find that you do not care who goes to heaven and who does not, but that you are more interested in proclaiming to the world the fact that they are lost, and not that they can be saved. It's the old, I know something you don't know mentality. I know to do that publically here would be inappropriate, but you could invite someone privately to e-mail them or send a private message to see if they are interested. No, I think you just want to make the 'heathens' mad at you. I think that you just don't like them because they don't believe the same way you do. You are really missing out on some good company. Your loss. Once again, you have judged me unrighteously if you count me as a heathen, I would not do the same to you, but I do know enough about you from this thread to see that you are very confused.Viva said:It's very odd that when I correct you EEWRED you spout emotional comments. You would rather stand with the heathen rather then...
My confidence is increasing that you are nothing more then a confused heathen in a Christian diaper.
Look - Like I said before, I have no personal issues with any of you. YOu all seem to be very nice people. I"m sure you kiss babies and pet puppies, but it is my belief that without the bowing of the knee to the truth which you surpress, you will simply go to hell. It's your fault.
I"m not preaching or anything. Just sharing. As a witch or wiccan would appreciate this next saying (via context) - you heathens are nothing more then hornless goats soon to dwell with the green man and (or aka - depending on grade) Horned Goat. Enjoy the party.
Respectfully,
Viva
---the verses quoted are in reference to unrighteous judgement. Logically righteous judgement is there and allowed via an ultimate authority which you heathens (thinking EEWRED is included here) reject or refuse to submit to.