The Vimana

Druidus · Jul 2, 2005

The vimana are flying machines from ancient Hindu texts. Here are the plans to one, based on the specifications in one text:

Another type from another text:

Another:

One more:

These are drawn from specifications set down in the Hindu text, without speculation.

How is it that these ancients had such good knowledge of flight? Is it possible that they possessed the power of flight, through these "vimana"? Is it possible that they used them as weapons? Is it possible that they used missiles; rockets?

Some readings from these texts:

"One time while King Citaketu was traveling in outer space on a brilliantly effulgent airplane given to him by Lord Vishnu, he saw Lord Siva..."
"The arrows released by Lord Siva appeared like fiery beams emanating from the sun globe and covered the three residential airplanes, which could then no longer be seen."
- Srimad Bhagasvatam, Sixth Canto, Part 3

"I quickly laid on an arrow, which killed by seeking out sound, to kill them...All the Danavas [troops in Salva's army] who had been screeching lay dead, killed by the blazing sunlike arrows that were triggered by sound."
- The Mahabharata

"His Saubha clung to the sky at a league's length...He threw at me rockets, missiles, spears, spikes, battle-axes, three-bladed javelins, flame-throwers, without pausing....The sky...seemed to hold a hundred suns, a hundred moons...and a hundred myriad stars. Neither day nor night could be made out, or the points of compass."
- The Mahabharata

Most interestingly:

"Dense arrows of flame, like a great shower, issued forth upon creation, encompassing the enemy....A thick gloom swiftly settled upon the Pandava hosts. All points of the compass were lost in darkness. Fierce winds began to blow. Clouds roared upward, showering dust and gravel.
"Birds croaked madly...the very elements seemed disturbed. The sun seemed to waver in the heavens. The earth shook, scorched by the terrible violent heat of this weapon. Elephants burst into flame and ran to and fro in a frenzy...over a vast area, other animals crumpled to the ground and died. From all points of the compass the arrows of flame rained continuously and fiercely."

"Gurkha, flying in his swift and powerful Vimana, hurled against the three cities of the Vrishnis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendour...An iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas....The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white....After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected.... To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment..."
- The Mahabharata

"Cuka, flying on board a high-powered vimana, hurled on to the triple city a single projectile charged with all the power of the universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose in all the splendor... When the vimana returned to Earth, it looked like a splendid block of antimony resting on the ground."
- Mausola Purva

Those last two is reminiscent of a nuclear weapon. Pottery breaking out of nowhere, hair and nails falling out, birds turning white, food becoming infected, etc.

Perhaps these are merely stories, but nonetheless, they are very interesting stories.

Watcher · Jul 2, 2005

Genesis 6:1-4

" 1) And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2) That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and took them wives of all which they chose. 3) And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children unto them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

Nephilim, literally means fallen ones, or ones who fell from the sky.
I heard somewhere that they were "angels" who had fallen, but alien pops into mind before angel

Has anyone else taken a look at the Book of Enoch??

Possibly there is a connection between the two....

http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/vimana.html --Article on Vimana

Very interesting stuff Druidus!

Neo-Logic · Jul 2, 2005

One possible theory is a one worded answer - Aliens

This is a possible theory behind the Pyramids around the world being so similar when each of the civilizations that built them had no contact with one another not to mention the impossible feat of building such enormous Pyramids that we today are not able to duplicate. Different drawings, text, and stories from different civilizations around the world indicate mysterious beings whom we consider myths. If one or more alien race(s) had assisted these different civilizations around the world, then it could explain why many pyramids aroudn the world look so similar.

As far as these Hindu flying machines are considered, is there any proof that they were built, tested, and actually worked? Otherwise, they could've just been a plan to build such machine from an insightful person ahead of his time, but never implemented. Or maybe it was the aliens again ... :bonk: I duno

Neo-Logic · Jul 2, 2005

Lol, from the looks of the plans, it was probably a good thing they didn't test it. Thing doesn't look like it can fly. It looks like a house with chimney chutes at the bottom. Don't see how they could make it lift off the ground, and even if they could, it doesn't look as if they would be able to control direction.

Druidus · Jul 2, 2005

The top one was one of the ones meant for going into space, which is why it is not super aerodynamic. Which one are you referring to? Based on the Vedic texts and the plans drawn from their specifications, it is concluded that the Vimana could have flown, had they existed.

There is no proof that they ever were built, however. One interesting thing to note, however, is that archaeologists found a large layer of glass buried under ground. It stretched for some distance, just a flat (not perfectly) layer of glass. This is exactly what happens when a nuclear weapon is used; a layer of glass is formed through the heat.

Watcher · Jul 2, 2005

aunggu2002 said:
One possible theory is a one worded answer - Aliens

This is a possible theory behind the Pyramids around the world being so similar when each of the civilizations that built them had no contact with one another not to mention the impossible feat of building such enormous Pyramids that we today are not able to duplicate. Different drawings, text, and stories from different civilizations around the world indicate mysterious beings whom we consider myths. If one or more alien race(s) had assisted these different civilizations around the world, then it could explain why many pyramids aroudn the world look so similar.

Not to mention the Nazca lines and Piri Re'is Map.

As far as evidence goes...maybe the "weather balloon" from Roswell was a vimana that was coming back from a mission

:biglaugh:
Wow about the glass. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

john313 · Jul 2, 2005

Watcher said:
Nephilim, literally means fallen ones, or ones who fell from the sky.
I heard somewhere that they were "angels" who had fallen, but alien pops into mind before angel

have you ever wondered if the angels were the same as "aliens"?

Finnyhaha · Jul 2, 2005

The top one was one of the ones meant for going into space, which is why it is not super aerodynamic. Which one are you referring to? Based on the Vedic texts and the plans drawn from their specifications, it is concluded that the Vimana could have flown, had they existed.

There is no proof that they ever were built, however. One interesting thing to note, however, is that archaeologists found a large layer of glass buried under ground. It stretched for some distance, just a flat (not perfectly) layer of glass. This is exactly what happens when a nuclear weapon is used; a layer of glass is formed through the heat.

Have any sources?

Druidus · Jul 2, 2005

Have any sources?

Yes:

http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/vimana.html
http://www.geocities.com/dipalsarvesh/viman1.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/vedic.html
http://www.atributetohinduism.com/Vimanas.htm

Finnyhaha · Jul 2, 2005

Thanks. Not claiming you were making it up or anything, just find stuff like this really difficult to credit. I had heard of the ancient Hindi spaceship thing before, still don't know what I think of it though. . .

Anyone here heard the idea that perhaps ancient Egypt had developed the battery long ago and used it in light sources (supposedly explaining the lack of scorch marks from torches on the interior walls of the pyramids)? I find that more credible. . if only because a battery is much easier to develop than a spacecraft.

On the other hand, if the Hindu theory of the cyclical nature of time is correct, then I suppose there would have been ample time in which to develop spacecraft and nuclear weaponry. It's. . intriguing.

Druidus · Jul 2, 2005

Anyone here heard the idea that perhaps ancient Egypt had developed the battery long ago and used it in light sources (supposedly explaining the lack of scorch marks from torches on the interior walls of the pyramids)? I find that more credible. . if only because a battery is much easier to develop than a spacecraft.

There is some evidence that they had flying machines as well (though it is much less than that for the Indians):

While I did not see these while in Egypt, they did exist. I asked our guide (Masters in Egyptology) about them, and he said the tomb the hieroglyphics were located in was closed to the public for now.

And, of course, the Baghdad Battery:

http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html

john313 · Jul 2, 2005

is there a helicopter on there too? in the top left

Sunstone · Jul 2, 2005

Are you sure the images of the helicopter and tank aren't fakes? I thought I read somewhere that they were.

Neo-Logic · Jul 2, 2005

Since I already threw out the idea of Aliens out there, I might as well bust out a few more weird ones.

Time travlers anyone? Maybe people are already time traveling in the future and are trying to tell us something ... Maybe

Shadow Wolf · Jul 4, 2005

I saw those pictures on some show on the history channel. It was some show that was about alien technology and visits.

meogi · Jul 4, 2005

One interesting thing to note, however, is that archaeologists found a large layer of glass buried under ground. It stretched for some distance, just a flat (not perfectly) layer of glass. This is exactly what happens when a nuclear weapon is used; a layer of glass is formed through the heat.

Where is the evidence for this?

Druidus · Jul 4, 2005

Where is the evidence for this?

I shall retrieve the link...

Deep_MindQuest · Nov 19, 2005

[url]http://www.atozphotoshop.com/bibles...es/ETagenda.htm[/url] Rig Veda - MAHABHARATA You ever heard of today what are called star children? People think that Gen. 6 is Torah is the only religious text to talk of beings from outside our earth coming to earth and having children with humans. They are wrong, the Hindu text talk of the beings from other planets coming here in their flying cars, that can go anywhere, mating with woman, thus how you get the godlike ones, the god-born ones.

The Mahabharata Book 3: Vana Parva Section CXV

Then the celestials and the saints of a rigidly virtuous life, met together, and thus spake to Vishnu, the god of gods, the slayer of demons, and possessed of prowess that never failed, saying. 'O blessed and revered lord, for the purpose of preserving all the born beings, it is necessary that Arjuna should be killed by thee.' And the mighty ruler of the Haihaya tribe placing himself on his celestial car, affronted Indra

The above is about wanting to kill Arjuna son of god Indra. They can be killed by each other, even by regular humans. They live on other planets, they fly in celestial cars that can go anywhere, they eat have sex, etc etc etc. It is most clear they are not gods in the sense of the English word.

Religious legends of pre Inca people state that the universe was inhabited by gods and celestial beings who arrived on earth from the Pleiades. In Bolivia, near Lake Titicaca, are the ruins of the megalithic city walls were constructed from blocks that weigh 60 tons which were further reinforced by metal clamps. Legends relate how it was built in one night by mysterious bearded white men who were giants from Taurus, the constellation of the Pleiades. They are also believed to have descended from the clouds and to have had sexual intercourse with Incan woman.

Robert Stanley, Ets from the Pleiades, in Unicas Vol. 4, 1995, p. 26-27.

From India comes the Mahabharata and other ancient Sanskrit texts, which tell of gods begetting children with woman of earth, and how these children inherited the supernatural skills and learning of their fathers. A similar mythology is found in the Epic of Gilgamesh, where we read of watchers from outer space coming to planet Earth. Does this sound similar to Gen. 6?

Ori · Nov 20, 2005

Does anyone know if those hieroglyphs are fake or not?

Deep_MindQuest · Nov 25, 2005

These Titans or giants (Nephilim) also appeared in the traditions or legends, of the Indo-Aryan peoples and they were called, from India through to Asia, the giants in the Sanskrit which is raksasa. They appear in the Ramayana and the epics of the Indian world as raksasa (giants) and they are seen to be in conflict with men. There is no doubt that this tradition was common throughout the world up until the time of Christ. We find from the Dead Sea Scrolls that they had uncovered a number of texts. http://www.logon.org/english/s/p154.html

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