seraphimoflucifer
Seraphim Of The Most High
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I do not believe in god, Satan is my Father, and I believe that Jesus is a stolen figurehead. I just wanted to state that before I go on. I am trying to present this from a skeptic point of view, so anyway. I've been thinking, what exactly did Jesus sacrifice? Jesus supposedly always knew he was going to die, and he also knew he was god. So really in the long run, yeah he suffered or whatever, but then he knew he would be in paradise. So in my opinion, he didn't sacrifice much.
Anyways, I'm done with my rambling.
Hail Satan
[WURM];1883322 said:"Was there not an inconceivable loss of knowledge at Bethlehem?
Christ's abasement, His subjecting Himself to the laws of human birth
And growth and to the lowliness of fallen human nature..."
[WURM];1883322 said:Hey apostle!
I like what you are bringing up here. Assuming doctrine is correct - what did Jesus actually sacrifice? We know he had all to gain from doing so - saving us for our sins, for his own godhood, to shed his human cage...etc. The odds are stacked more in favor of selfishness than selflessness. So, are his gains more a byproduct of his good deed or are his gains the ultimate goal of his deed? Only a God would know, I suppose.
I deeper thought is brought up in the Lyrics of Deathspell Omega:
"Was there not an inconceivable loss of knowledge at Bethlehem?
Christ's abasement, His subjecting Himself to the laws of human birth
And growth and to the lowliness of fallen human nature..."
Their are two questions here: What exactly did Christ give up in becoming human and why did he do so? For the former, was Christ retaining all his unknowable aspects of the omnipotent being or was he really just human for this earthly existence? For the latter, it would seem Christ's choice could be based on your question. If Christ sacrificed his unknowable aspects to become man, solely to die and save us, then his death was not the actual sacrifice but his abasement would be. If Christ didn't loose his omnipotence upon becoming human, then, to me, there appears to be no really sacrifice going on expect the minor (for a god) pain he suffered at Gol'gotha.
Make sense?
I sure as hell wouldnt sacrifice anything , anyone who would pull the wings off a butterfly , is pretty sick , but everyone seems to think it is some sort of good ? i read the book , and find it to be something a drug addit wrote , bunch of dummies over their ... I can take away all that worry , "who can make A Sunrise ! " (old Sammy Davis Jr tune) .. Sprincle it with Dew ! cover it with love and make the World Taste good ! S A T A N !
sounds like a guilt trip . wait till you get to heaven , then they will rub your noise in it , Rmember what i did for you , hell 1 / 3 rd , must have not liked it too much , thats alot to be cast aside over, I will exault my self Chairman , Im My own Enviroment , that is so pleasing to myself , In all that i wanted , My door opens by Appointment only , I might just be masterbating , Ill bet you cant do that in heaven of glory bright ? : ) joeyChristians believe that he sacrificed himself so that he could pay for their sins.
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