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The Presence of Set

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
I know there are many on the LHP who do not accept the reality of the Lord of Darkness. I'm not one to try to convince a Magician one way or the other on this point. We are all unique and individual in our views and understanding of things. I personally have always thought that the Dark One is a reality within the Universe and within me. I have experienced and witnessed many things in my life as an aspiring Sorcerer that have convinced me of the reality of the Lord of Darkness whom I choose to honor in his Form of the Egyptian god Set.

There is one event that happened which finally convinced me. It happened during my first ritual invocation to Set. I was about 19 or 20-years old. I had only known about the Temple of Set for a short time and began studying the Neter Set through verious books on ancient Egyptian mythology. For some reason I was extremely drawn to the Set Entity, and was drawn to the ToS's infusion of Satanic symbolism with Egyptian symbolism. Soon a crisis of the soul began to build up within me. I began to question, was Satan or Set the true Form of the Prince of Darkness? The few exerps I had read from the "Book of Coming Forth by Night" seemed to suggest the later.

After time, the questioning became greater and greater... I had to know, I Needed to know. I remembered a quote from the BoCFbN I had read in a book in which Set said: "I shall roam this world, and shall come to those who seek me." And so, on a warm summer night in June during an outdoor working under the glory of the night sky I performed my first invocation of Set.

Immediately after the last words of the invocation it was as if I was struck by a bolt of incredible physical and spiritual energy unlike I had ever felt before. It was electrical and overwhelming, unlike any previous ritual experience. I asked, "is this you oh Set?" and the sensation became even more powerful followed by two great blinding flashes of lightning that lit the night sky from a storm moving in from the East in the far distance.

I felt lite as a feather, as if I were floating. New understandings and insights began to race through my mind as if spoken to me by something far more intelligent than myself. Sure I had experienced the sense of the Magical link during previous Workings I had performed in the past, but nothing even close to this.

I can't remember exactly how long the experience lasted, but I think it was about 30 minutes or more. But the after glow lasted for months afterward. And for me, my question had been answered and on that night I proclaimed my eternal Oath to Set. I also sense that on that sacred night Set saw the Truth in my Heart and proclaimed me as one of His Children.

I'm not one who looks for the Dark Lord around every corner. I think it is very rare that He deliberately interviens in the Magicians life. Set infused within us the Essence of the Black Flame that we might Work our own Will, our own Magics, forge our own destiny in Life. However, I do think there are times, maybe once, maybe twice in a lifetime that He does intervien, especially when asked. However, don't expect him to save you from an on coming train if your car breaks down on a railroad track.:no:

Be assured though that Set does think of those who think of Him.

Xeper.
/Adramelek\
 
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EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Em hotep Adramelek,

I would only like to clarify your statement that Set is "a reality within the Universe and within me".
Within the Universe is all that is of the Natural Order, the Fibonacci Sequence/Golden Mean etc. This is the Order which most of the World refers to as 'god'. It is the natural sequence of things that Mankind has empowered as divine.

Set is the 'UN'neter, beyond the natural order of things. The force that dared to step outside the natural universe and take a long look.
 

blackout

Violet.
I will add this for the moment.

When I finally stepped outside ... beyond...
the 'world as I knew it'...
out into the vast (and dark) unknown
with power and total abandon,
it was also a dark and stormy night.
My window was open behind my head
and there was massive thunder and lightening,
of "supernatural" proportion.

I took off all my "protection"
and entered freely into the "dark tunnel".
I should have been scared sh**less,
but I wasn't.
The whole night was one of a state of heightened awareness,
and then the next morning I awoke to total heightened enLightenment.
Everything around me, was speaking to me,
of deeper truths, and personal insights ...
time dissipated... I simply moved from one epiphany to the next...
it was as if someone threw the power/insight switch of my Being to "On".

And it lasted for at least 3 days super high intensity,
and then for months after that,
with the ODDEST most meaningful Syncronicities
... "impossible" coincidences.... speaking... showing me things.

It was the most amazing few months of my entire existence (this incarnation).

I did not know the name of Set.
I was still sorting out the esoteric meaning/s of Jesus, for MYSELF, actually.

Still, I had decided "no more doctrine", "no more indoctrination",
"no more superstition" that night,
(and it had been coming for some time)
throwing off the last of my "protections" from evil.
(that I had clung to, for so long)

Perhaps this was the 'UNneter" of Set.
My jumping outside of all convention,
social, societal, religious, "normal" worldly classification,
and me mySelf
taking the freefall plunge beyond what was previously
my own "Natural Order" (Set in Stone... lol) for at least 8 years.

The knock to my personal allignment/assemblage point
of UniVerse/World/Reality/gOd
pushed me so far outside my previous Self
that there was no chance of my ever "sliding" back.

When your whole paradigm shifts you beyond your experience of everything,
there is really nothing to go back to.

A New paradigm... a New Reality...
is really a whole New life 'Set'.

~V~

Enjoyed your story Adramelek. ;)
 
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Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
I would only like to clarify your statement that Set is "a reality within the Universe and within me".
Within the Universe is all that is of the Natural Order, the Fibonacci Sequence/Golden Mean etc. This is the Order which most of the World refers to as 'god'. It is the natural sequence of things that Mankind has empowered as divine.

Set is the 'UN'neter, beyond the natural order of things. The force that dared to step outside the natural universe and take a long look.

Good to hear from you again Etu!

I agree with your statement, I see it as a Truth. When I said "a reality within the Universe and within me." I was speaking more along the lines of the First Part of the Word of Set: "I am within and beyond you, the Highest of Life, in Majesty greater than the forces of the Universe..."

UltraViolet,

I know exactly what you mean. After that night everything "changed". It was like I had stepped outside this box I had been confined to all my life and saw mySelf and the world in a new light, the Dark Light of Set. I had taken my first steps into a vast new realm of existence. The world around me seemed to change, I know my life was changed forever. I think it's safe to say it was a night of Xeper.

/Adramelek\
 
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Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
UltraViolet and EtuMalku,

I would just like to add that it was the hopes of encountering folks like you guys which attracted me to the RE forum. With your words and understandings you help to give me different and many times clearer insights upon this Path we walk.

Oh and I'm also grateful that we have Valor, Sireal, and Magister Adams with us as well.:D

May you all for ever Xeper and Remanifest!
/Adramelek\:bat:
 

blackout

Violet.
Who would have known I'd have found mySelf most at home in the Setian forum here.

I was on RF a long time before I even knew it existed,
or anything at all about what it was.

Yet now, I feel like it's the only part of the forum that inspires
the deepest part of me.
I also feel like it's the only part of the forum
where i am really understood.
(in spite of my limited Setian vocabulary)

I keep revisiting my most amazing (and bizarre!) experiences
every year I've been here,
with keener, more detached inSight.

I understand some key things now
that eluded me before
thanks to the Setian forum here.
Each of you has contrubuted to my understanding.

Sireal shared something with me recently
that Set a bunch of loose ends to order,
in my mind.

I realize now that I engaged in Black Magick
before I even knew what it was.
What I experienced might have made anyone else
lose their sanity.
But for me, it was the learning experience
I had wanted... been waiting for... all my life.

When I was a young adult
I read Carlos Casteneda backwards and forwards,
a hundred times.

All I wanted, was to be a Sorceress.
To live a "Seperate Reality".

But with no one to apprentice me,
and no idea how to continue on my own,
I finally caused my own disrepair.
It took me many years to find my Own path again.

I'm glad to have you all now as well.
In the end,
that massive Xeper was my Own,
(however haphazardly I managed to Set it in motion)
but I'm so glad to have your insights
and experiences to share as well,
as I continue Becoming & Remanifesting.
 
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Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
UltraViolet,

Those people who strive, who persue their goals in life are experiencing Xeper. It was Xeper that transformed prehistoric man to what he is today. That profound ritual experience that changed your life was an experience in Xeper, and the actions you took to incorporate that Change in your Life is what is known as Remanifestation.

The Prince of Darkness truly thinks of those who think of him - those who strive to become more than the sum of their parts. Those who work towards bettering their way through life are experiencing a form of Xeper. However, those who just sit around on their butts living off wellfare, with no ambition, no desire to better their lives don't even enter into Set's Mind.

/Adramelek\
 
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I would only like to clarify your statement that Set is "a reality within the Universe and within me".
Within the Universe is all that is of the Natural Order, the Fibonacci Sequence/Golden Mean etc. This is the Order which most of the World refers to as 'god'. It is the natural sequence of things that Mankind has empowered as divine.

This could be a problem of definitions.

There is a Universe at whole, this Universe includes the Objective Universe (the natural order) and many Subjectives Universes. The Universe is both known and unknown to mankind. Thus, the Universe at whole is NOT the Natural Order, Set is part of the Universe, but not part of the Objective Universe.

Concerning the statement of Adramelek ("I personally have always thought that the Dark One is a reality within the Universe and within me"): its very important to thinks about the definitions of Setianism and about the definitions of other systems. The Temple of Set has some own, very specific definitions that cannot found in other systems. If you talk that Set is part of the Universe and part of you, we should make clearer this point: the Universe at whole includes the natural order and the individual, acausal aspects called "psyche" or "subjective universe". If you tell that Set is a part of the Universe, that will be correct. But if you tell that Set is a part of the subjective and objective Universe then you are getting wrong...but he works in the objective universe through the individuals because of the magical link (the nexus between objective and subjective universe).

Thus, most religions and ideologies have the idea of only one God that defines the natural and social orders. Setianism has the idea, that beyond these constructions is a second idea, the idea of separation, and that this idea is the important aspect of human being's essence of life.
 
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Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Hi Sinistercurrent, good to hear from you as well.

You do bring up some interesting points. To me Set is a Conscious Entity who exists within the Cosmic Order. He is a conscious Being who is independent of the laws which govern the order of the cosmos and is therefore able to bend these laws in accordance with his Will. It could be said that Set is the Greatest Black Magician within the Universe and in his own words from the BoCFbN - "I am the Ageless Intelligence of this Universe."

Also, speaking of independence of the laws which govern the order of the cosmos, there is a paradox at work here. Set as a divinity is a being capable of causing creations to occur. When Set creates he disrupts the universal stasis and his creations become incorporated into the fabric of the cosmic order of things. Thus, Set becomes responsible for that new status of the Universe, thus he looses a bit of his independence.

If Set were to re-create the Universe entirely, he would no longer be independent has he would become the new Cosmic Stasis, i.e. God. He would no longer be the "Un-Neter". This is also spoken of in the BoCFbN: "...I cannot destroy the Cosmic Inertia without having to assume its place." And also: "Were I my Self to displace the Cosmic Inertia, I should be forced to become a new measure of consistency. I would cease to be One, for I should become All".

I think Set countered this paradoxical truth by infusing his Essence within others i.e. mankind so there would be other creative beings other than himself causing creations to occur in new and different ways, thus freeing Set from taking full responsibility for remaking the Cosmos, therefore cancelling this imbalance and freeing Set to Be.

Perhaps this is one of Set's major goals; to remake the Cosmos into a mechanism that is less antithetical towards Magical existence. But he needs others to help him in this great Work so he doesn't loose his independence and become that new measure of consistency, so he can remain One and unique - That which Is Set.

/Adramelek\
 
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You do bring up some interesting points. To me Set is a Conscious Entity who exists within the Cosmic Order.

Ok, if you mean the totality of existence, then Set will be a part of the Cosmic Order.

The role of Set is very good described in the CToS. The term nature is derived from neteru. All natural principles came from the neteru. Thus, Set was the opponent. He is a part of nature but at the same moment he is the opponent againt the neteru or Nature. Thus, from my personal point of view that is the reason why the idea of cosmic order was expanded to the idea of Universe as totality of existence, not only limited to natural principles.

could be said that Set is the Greatest Black Magician within the Universe and in his own words from the BoCFbN - "I am the Ageless Intelligence of this Universe."

Hmm, I couldn#t say something to the BoCFbN - its a personal "thing" of Aquino, with only a special meaning for him.

creations become incorporated into the fabric of the cosmic order of things. Thus, Set becomes responsible for that new status of the Universe, thus he looses a bit of his independence.

Why should Set becomes responsible for any new state of the Universe?

If Set were to re-create the Universe entirely, he would no longer be independent

He is the princple of isolate consciousness, not the creator of the cosmos. He works through mankind in the cosmos. Thus that is the reason why at the end of the day only mankind has responsibility for the cosmos. Set tells us something about the "nature" of our personality, thats his job. Nothing more.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Sinistercurrent,

The "Book of Coming Forth by Night" has a very special meaning for me as it does for many Setians, not just for Dr. Aquino.

I don't recall saying Set created the Cosmos.

When Set creates, when we create, every time we work our Will to Magic we are responsible, we are the cause of that new creation, which is transformed from idea to objective reality.

As for your last paragraph, it is an interesting perspective. The Function of the Prince of Darkness you discribe in your final statement: "Set tells us something about the "nature" of our personality, that's his job. Nothing more." I agree to an extent, but for the most part I simply don't share your view. Especially the last two words. To me the Function and Purpose of the Dark Archon is much more far reaching. I'll stand by my fifth post on this thread.

/Adramelek\
 
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The "Book of Coming Forth by Night" has a very special meaning for me as it does for many Setians, not just for Dr. Aquino.

"The text of another, is an affront to the Self"

That is one of the most important statements for me :)

Its a document of personal communication between Dr. Aquino and Set, it is meaningful for the path Dr. Aquino has chosen, and in this context I understand this work. I respect it, but its the way Set has communicated with Dr. Aquino, not to me, not to you.

I don't recall saying Set created the Cosmos.

Okay!

When Set creates, when we create, every time we work our Will to Magic we are responsible, we are the cause of that new creation, which is transformed from idea to objective reality.

I agree with you :)
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
"The text of another is an affront to the Self."

Sinistercurrent makes a valid point, this is an important statement. However, in my personal quest to come to an Understanding of the Prince of Darkness the BoCFbN, the "Diabolicon", the "Word of Set" and other documents are useful tools which help me in this particular quest.

As Magicians a lot of our own Magical Works are ecclectic remanifestations of the works of other Magicians. They are variations from what we have learned from others. For example, Dr. Aquino's Utterance of Xeper. His Utterance was a Remanifestation of a word which already existed for thousands of years. Don Webb's Re-Utterance of Xeper was a further Remanifestation which shed new insight upon the meaning of the Word.

Don Webb's Understanding of Xeper is his own, but studying his take on the Word can help others who wish to practice the Setian philosophy of Xeper come to their own understandings and perceptions of the Word.

/Adramelek\
 
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