Condemning homosexuality

well im a christian and i dont agree with homosexuality but i also dont agree with petty theft so there both the same to me

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Two straight people making out doesn't hurt me. Someone stealing my purse does.
They aren't the same. :/

jensa i really don't understand what your comment was on my post. if you took it as bashing please reread what i said, cause i wasnt. like i said i don't give a fig about who anyone wants to sleep with. that is between them and the partner they choose. i just don't want to see anyone reguardless of sexual orientation, kissing, having sex, holding hands, arguing, etc. i don't want to see it. whats the big deal in that? i show respect to others by not doing these things with my husband with public and i feel the same consideration should be shown to me. i would never go up to a couple and demand them to stop, i would just perfer not to see it. this by the way goes for straights, gays, friends, foes and what ever else is outthere.

I didn't take it as bashing, and I'm sorry if I came off that way. I just wanted clarification on what you definate as PDA, since just about everyone has a different definition. Thanks for the clarification, btw.

EDIT: LMAO, definate? I really AM frazzled. I meant define. :biglaugh:

I don't look at that and think "Holy crap, I was wrong! I'd better pretend to be straight now." I think "Why on earth are you being so hurtful?"

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Personally, upon seeing these kinds of things, I think "string 'em up, light 'em up and bask in the comfy warmth of burning bigots." But that's just me.

Somehow, I doubt that going around telling folks they're going to hell was exactly what Jesus had in mind, however he may have felt about homosexuality. Set a good example, don't do it yourself, that I could see. But some people seem to enjoy the thought of others burning for eternity a little too much...

Jensa said:

Do people really realize how hurtful it is to condemn a part of someone's life? Is it out of ignorance or hate that people do such things? Do they just not understand how much stuff like this hurts?:

I alternate between being apathetic about stuff like this, anger, and hurt. Right now I'm hurt. What is doing crap like that changing? I don't look at that and think "Holy crap, I was wrong! I'd better pretend to be straight now." I think "Why on earth are you being so hurtful?"

This was more of a rant than anything, but I'd like views from you guys on the matter.

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Oh, Jensa, I am so sorry there are such miserable people in the world. My heart goes out to you and everyone else who is hurt by this. Bless your heart, because if you are hurt by this, you have a heart that knows love.

I want you to know, if you don't already, that by saying those things, they are really saying it to themselves. Whatever it is that they dislike so much about homosexuals, is really a mirror to something they don't like about themselves. And considering how much they hate others, that means they have alot of baggage. I have to find sympathy for them, because I believe they have NO IDEA what real love is. There lives have got to be something more miserable than we can imagine, that would make them hate others so much.

It is said that by our judgements, we will be judged. They will be judged by the judgements they make, and we will be judged by the judgements we make. So, I say we must forgive them for their ignorance. We must find compassion for them despite our disgust for their actions. We must forgive them for being hurtful. And we must ask that they learn what real love is.

"Judge not lest ye be judged" means, IMO, that if you judge the reality of others you will be unable to avoid judging your own. And judging your own reality only serves to reinforce your belief in it, thus reincorcing the denial of the true reality, your true Self, and God. It's a bit ironic that the religious zealousness of these people is taking them further and further away from God's Kingdom.

EnhancedSpirit said:

that by saying those things, they are really saying it to themselves. Whatever it is that they dislike so much about homosexuals, is really a mirror to something they don't like about themselves. And considering how much they hate others, that means they have alot of baggage. I have to find sympathy for them, because I believe they have NO IDEA what real love is. There lives have got to be something more miserable than we can imagine, that would make them hate others so much.

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ES,
You beat me to it. Frubals. It's easier and more emotionally satisfying for some people, to go pick at someone else's perceived sins than t is to take a close look at their own. If they can somehow convince themselves that this other guy has sinned more or their sin is more heinous, then they can convince themselves that they're good enough to get into heaven because "I'm not as bad as that person." It makes me believe that perhaps they really don't believe they are saved by Christ's sacrifice and God's mercy.

People who do things like this should be subjected to the same fate, see how they like to live in fear.

I feel very sad that those who have different sexual tastes (excluding pedophilles) shoul bear the brunt of sexism.

I cannot claim to be 'fully' Christian, but I thought that I would point our some passages from the Bible which Christians who denounce homosexuals might like to think about (and I am NOT hitting out at Christians in general - only the 'holier than thou').

Samuel 26 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful, and with the upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright.
Ecclesiastes 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Matthew 14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Matthew15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses
Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. :149:

It always amuses me how the people who attack other people are always perfect.

orichalcum said:

People who do things like this should be subjected to the same fate, see how they like to live in fear.

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I think they already do and that's why they have to somehow convince themselves that God hates homosexuals more than any of the sins they're committing.

orichalcum said:

People who do things like this should be subjected to the same fate, see how they like to live in fear.

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I wouldn't want anyone to live like that.

Riven said:

"Judge not lest ye be judged" means, IMO, that if you judge the reality of others you will be unable to avoid judging your own. And judging your own reality only serves to reinforce your belief in it, thus reincorcing the denial of the true reality, your true Self, and God. It's a bit ironic that the religious zealousness of these people is taking them further and further away from God's Kingdom.

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Jesus said 'by your own mouth you will be judged" this was what I was referring to, not "judge not, lest you be judged".

Personally, upon seeing these kinds of things, I think "string 'em up, light 'em up and bask in the comfy warmth of burning bigots." But that's just me.

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Hmmmm, roast bigot jerky........on a warm summer's night......Ive watched Hanible to many times.

Oh man... now that just makes me want to sing. o/` Bigots roasting on an open fire... o/`

njcl said:

well im a christian and i dont agree with homosexuality but i also dont agree with petty theft so there both the same to me

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Isn't that like saying that I do not agree with short people but I also do not agree with cucumbers either? Not much of a relationship there if you ask me.

They are pointing at a 'sin' and shouting and makeing a fuss to draw attention to it and away from themselves and the sins that they are commiting.
"don't look at me... LOOK AT THAT GUY!"
The more attention they can draw away from themselves they better they feel about thier own evils. IMHO

wa:do

painted wolf said:

They are pointing at a 'sin' and shouting and makeing a fuss to draw attention to it and away from themselves and the sins that they are commiting.
"don't look at me... LOOK AT THAT GUY!"
The more attention they can draw away from themselves they better they feel about thier own evils. IMHO

wa:do

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You must spread some Karma around before giving it to painted wolf again.

You may well have a point there, PW.

I've always wondered why the folks that are so loud in their protests against homosexuals and the alledged ill effects of homosexuality on society do not ever (ever!) get out and protest biker gangs or street gangs or prison gangs and the gang's ill effects on society. Why don't you ever see them holding signs up in front of some Mafia Don's house? Given the way those folks who are against homosexuals ascribe to homosexuals all sorts of criminal traits, you would think they'd get riled up about the real criminals in society.