Mickiel's proof of God.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

The " Damascus Gate", where after Christ was scourged and condemned to death, he bore the cross to Calvary. They have this gate, and actually they also have the " Via Dolorosa", which is part of the pavement where Christ stood before Pilate, another actual historical biblical characther, and over which he made his way to " Golgotha", (or the place of the Skull, the hill he was killed on, which Archaeologist have also found) Matt. 27:26-33.

The Damascus Gate is over the site of the gate through which Christ made his exit from Jerusalem to suffer outside of the gate, Heb. 13:12.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

We have the " Tomb of Joseph", John 19:38-42. After Jesus died, and the authorities were sure of his death, Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, asked Pilate for his body. The request was granted and Joseph was assisted by Nicodemus in taking the body and preparing it for burial. Joseph owned a newly hewn tomb in a garden near where Christ was crucified, and it was here that he was buried.

They have this tomb man, they got it on site. Just outright proof of the bibles accuracy in history.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

Jesus was brought before a high priest named " Caiaphas" before he was killed, Matthews 26:57-68. Caiaphas actually slapped Christ in his face during the interrigation. Did you know they have unearthed and found this mans Bonebox? I mean they got this guys actual bones. A real biblical characther, who met Christ, slapped him, now we have this mans bones.

I mean, good greif, what further proof do you need of the bibles historical relevancy? We have the actual bones of a biblical characther.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

In Revelations 2:1-7, the Apostle John mentioned the " City of Ephesus", which was a vibrant city in Pauls day. Do you know that Archaeologist have found this biblical city. Found it man, we got this place right now. You can see it for yourself, I have pictures of it. And these are the type of things which prove God to me, this city is not manufactored, its actual. A biblical writer mentions it, and its real, thus the writer was real.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

Did you know they have found the site where Jesus was tempted by satan? Called " The Mount of Temptation", Luke 4:1-13. I have pictures of it. These guys also have found and located the actual site where Jesus was baptised. I got pictures of that. These are actual places you can vist, these places are real.

The bible mentions the " River Jordan", did you know that river still exist? Its real man, this is no joke. Atheist cannot make these places go away, you can see them for yourself. The bible is no joke man, this book is relevant, its historical fact, the God it speaks of is real.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

Then we have the famous " Dead Sea Scrolls." In 1947 a Judean wilderness shepard lad was looking for a stray Goat at cliffs overlooking the Dead Sea, and noticed an opening over the edge. He threw a rock into the cave and heard a bing. Entering the cave he found a number of large jars which the Essenes " hid when Vespasian invaded their community 1,879 years before. This discovery starled the biblical world. It was a stunning find.

A commentary of the book of " Habakkuk" was found. The complette book of " Isaiah" was found and portions of " Daniel." Coins and other scrolls were found with them.

Isaiah is a very powerful book in the bible, one of my favorites.

Peace.

EtuMalku · Nov 7, 2009

mickiel said:
I disagree with this, and affirm that it was God who constructed the human consciousness. Conversely, it is God who blinds the human consciousness from seeing him. This is why those who do not believe in God, will never believe in God, because its Gods own power blinding them, and only God can release their consciousness.

Thats why its utter foolishness to try to convince anyone of God, goodness, doing that would be against Gods own will, its him blinding them.

And I want to go into that.

Peace.

Indeed you do, when you speak of 'God' I assume you are referring to the Christian / Abrahamic God?

If so, my take is that Christianity reduces non-natural experiences into a natural or organic/mechanical model and falsely elevates that model to the level of "super-nature". There is really nothing 'supernatural' about Yahweh; he is merely a personification of the natural/organic laws and is a construct of the human mind.

It is a form of stoicism. Salvation becomes attainable by surrendering oneself to Christ. This removes all rationality and responsibility for either personal or social ethics and replaces them with ethics of a man-made faith/ideal.

In other words, there is no God, unless you want there to be one.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

EtuMalku said:
Indeed you do, when you speak of 'God' I assume you are referring to the Christian / Abrahamic God?

If so, my take is that Christianity reduces non-natural experiences into a natural or organic/mechanical model and falsely elevates that model to the level of "super-nature". There is really nothing 'supernatural' about Yahweh; he is merely a personification of the natural/organic laws and is a construct of the human mind.

It is a form of stoicism. Salvation becomes attainable by surrendering oneself to Christ. This removes all rationality and responsibility for either personal or social ethics and replaces them with ethics of a man-made faith/ideal.

In other words, there is no God, unless you want there to be one.

I am not refering to the Christian God, I have nothing to do with Christians, they are just as blind as Atheist, as far as I am concerned. I hold no intrest in Yahweh. Salvation is not attianable by surrendering to Christ, its a free gift to everyone, for everyone, espically those who do not believe. I hold no intrest in man made faith, and I have no faith myself.

In other words, there is a God, wether you want one or not.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

Cyrus was a king prophetically named by the prophet Isaiah more than a century before his birth, that he would be the king who would give permission to Judah to return to their homeland and rebuild their temple and Jerusalem, Isaiah 44:28- 45:1. Cyrus was born, became King and issued that decree, Ezra 1:1-4, amazing. Simply incredible. He had a copy of that decree made, that decree was discovered by archaeologist and is now in the British Museum, London. King Cyrus palace and his actual tomb has also been found.

Stunning proof of God and his written word.

Peace.

EtuMalku · Nov 7, 2009

mickiel said:
I am not refering to the Christian God, I have nothing to do with Christians, they are just as blind as Atheist, as far as I am concerned. I hold no intrest in Yahweh. Salvation is not attianable by surrendering to Christ, its a free gift to everyone, for everyone, espically those who do not believe. I hold no intrest in man made faith, and I have no faith myself.

In other words, there is a God, wether you want one or not.

Peace.

Then what exactly is this God of yours if not part of your own psyche / imagination? How can the concept of salvation be a free gift, to what purpose would it serve? And especially to those who do not believe? This is irrational thinking, if you would explain yourself clearer I would appreciate it.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

The bible mentions " King Nebuchadnezzar" at length, he built the famous " Hanging Gardens" for one of his wives, and was historically reguarded as one of the seven wonders of the ancient world. Babylon is just as historical and real as King Nubuchadnezzar was, both biblical. The ruins of Babylon has been unearthed and they found the Hanging Gardens.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

EtuMalku said:
Then what exactly is this God of yours if not part of your own psyche / imagination? How can the concept of salvation be a free gift, to what purpose would it serve? And especially to those who do not believe? This is irrational thinking, if you would explain yourself clearer I would appreciate it.

Its not irrational to my mind. God is my consciousness, my very being, and yours to. Our consciousness comes from him, not from some big bang theory or useless interpitations of something evolving from nothing. Salvation is free because its the true destiny of all humanity, to live with God forever, and has absolutely nothing to do with us believing it or not. God has planned it for us all, and none of us will be left out.

The only cost to salvation that God required is that Jesus become human and be killed, that, and that alone has paied Gods requirements for humanity. Salvation has been falsely protrayed by foolish believers as some kind " Of Test", that only those who pass will " Make it." Or a thing thats only for " Good Believers", such is nonsense, every human being who has ever lived and not believed, needs God more than believers do, and God understands this. God is not stupid or ignorant. Humanity is.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

In 2Kings 18-19 chapters King Hezekiahs prayers for deliverance of his people are mentioned. King Sennacheribs armys were ready to destroy them, but God intervened. Archaeologist unearthed " Sennacheribs Prism", and the King , in his own words, describes his interpitation of this event. I have a picture of the Prism, which were used like ancient newspapers and historical docuements. This Prism is stunning proof of God.

Peace.

nonbeliever_92 · Nov 7, 2009

mickiel said:
Its not irrational to my mind. God is my consciousness, my very being, and yours to. Our consciousness comes from him, not from some big bang theory or useless interpitations of something evolving from nothing. Salvation is free because its the true destiny of all humanity, to live with God forever, and has absolutely nothing to do with us believing it or not. God has planned it for us all, and none of us will be left out.

The only cost to salvation that God required is that Jesus become human and be killed, that, and that alone has paied Gods requirements for humanity. Salvation has been falsely protrayed by foolish believers as some kind " Of Test", that only those who pass will " Make it." Or a thing thats only for " Good Believers", such is nonsense, every human being who has ever lived and not believed, needs God more than believers do, and God understands this. God is not stupid or ignorant. Humanity is.

Peace.

It's amazing how you keep saying how you wish to show us the proof of your god, yet you haven't shown or said anything really besides "things are beautiful, so god did it."

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

King Hezekiah , realizing the need for water in times of war, had his men dig a conduit from a Spring to the " Pool of Siloam", which was built inside the city walls. Archaeologist have found this Pool.

Peace.

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

nonbeliever_92 said:
It's amazing how you keep saying how you wish to show us the proof of your god, yet you haven't shown or said anything really besides "things are beautiful, so god did it."

Its even more amazing to me how you cannot see the proof I have posted. But the proof is just not for you to see, so I am not " Showing the proof to the " Us" you mentioned, the proof is for those who can see it, want to see it.

Peace.

cottage · Nov 7, 2009

mickiel said:
Bigoted, perhaps, obsession, yes I am after the whole false concept of being Atheist, but blind, no buddy, I see right through you.

Peace.

So, what is an atheist?

mickiel · Nov 7, 2009

cottage said:
So, what is an atheist?

I hold no intrest in communicating with you, theres something about you I do not like.

Peace.

Morse · Nov 7, 2009

I have a question for you mickiel..

Why?

Diederick · Nov 7, 2009

So, everything that is 'true' is proof of God?

Don't think that is a bit of a non-argument? I mean, I could just as easily claim they are proof of the Teapot.

Spot the difference.

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