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What if Jesus was the antichrist?

Humanistheart

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Your question makes me think that you have not looked into what is known about the Antichrist.(s)
There are only four verses in the Bible dealing with the word antichrist or Antichrist. Three of them say that an antichrist is somebody who does not live by Jesus' teachings or it is somebody who does not believe or even preaches that Jesus was not the Christ.
The last verse just says that it is the last time, and that Antichrist will come, still while mentioning the many antichrists mentioned in the first three verses. (actually, this verse is the first verse mentioning antichrists, not the last.)
The Antichrist is an antichrist who turned his life around and is now an example for other antichrists to follow in their redemption. I am speaking from experience. I am the Antichrist, and I am Jehova's and Elohim's Messiah.
There are, as a matter of fact, many real Antichrists who will begin to emerge right now. I have only just started going public. (the Second Coming team is still messing with me a little bit by not backing me up in public to build my character a little bit more.)
Right now I can only prove it by my knowledge of the system and the afterlife, but within the next few days I will be able to prove this message and God's existence. I am good, not evil, and only good things are going to come out of the emergence of the Antichrist Messiah. -

E the yura (The aproppriate amount of love to glyph to everybody that you come into contact with.)

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You're responce makes me wonder if you have any knowledge of what a christ is to be. As already explained in the beggining of this thread, jesus did not fullfill one messianic prophicy and in many ways was the opposite of what the christ was to be, thus anti-christ.
 

MissAlice

Well-Known Member
I am not in misery so don't shoot me. I am actually having the time of my life. Five more posts and I can put in the name of my website. I am using your forums to go public. I am legitimate and I can prove it.

Ah....so you are just here to SPAM?

Couldn't you have come up with something better or more entertaining than this..:rolleyes:
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
Known to whom? To you?

To anyone. All god's can be explained away with a little effort, in one way or another. Look at jesus here. Christians call him a god, yet the bible, their holy book itself, disproves this. Mormonism has been proven false, the entire abrahamic god can be discounted, etc etc. There is no thiestic religion that cannot be proven wrong, there for none of the god's people claim to know exist. God's do not exist. Period.
 
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Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
To anyone. All god's can be explained away with a little effort, in one way or another. Look at jesus here. Christians call him a god, yet the bible, their holy book itself, disproves this. Mormonism has been proven false, etc etc. There is no thiestic religion that cannot be proven wrong, there for none of the god's people claim to know exist. God's do not exist. Period.

Have scientists tried to explain away eastern concepts?
Individuals can make claims that can't be proven either way. We're proving nothing here, especially withy our logic. So is an absolute statement really necessary?
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
Have scientists tried to explain away eastern concepts?
Individuals can make claims that can't be proven either way. We're proving nothing here, especially withy our logic. So is an absolute statement really necessary?

All god's can be proven false in one way or another, it's not limited to science. Look at jesus here. The bible, something designed to convince people jesus is a christ, makes it clear he was not. Science wasn't necessesary for that now was it?
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
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All god's can be proven false in one way or another, it's not limited to science. Look at jesus here. The bible, something designed to convince people jesus is a christ, makes it clear he was not. Science wasn't necessesary for that now was it?

Jesus is the only example you seem to be able to come up with. Are you aware of all the different god concepts? The Bible seems heavily flawed, but that proves nothing. Hypothetically, Jesus could be God whether we trust the Bible or not. Society might not believe it but an individual might, if Jesus, who hypothetically happens to be God, revealed himself to this individual. You and I don't know this, but it's always possible. So we can't legitimately make absolute statements about something we don't know.
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
Jesus is the only example you seem to be able to come up with. .

So you missed it when I pointed out that mormonism has been discredited, as well as judiasm and the entire abrahamic line? You want more? Perhaps you'd like to take a trip up mt olympus where the god's were to reside. Last I heard they'd not been found. Or perhaps you forgot that this thread's OP is about jesus? Shame on me for trying to keep it slightly on topic! I'd suggest you make a serperate post if you wish to continue this, and to start it and to save time perhaps you can list a religion or god series that is not easily debunked.

Are you aware of all the different god concepts? The Bible seems heavily flawed, but that proves nothing. Hypothetically, Jesus could be God whether we trust the Bible or not. Society might not believe it but an individual might, if .

It doesn't matter what people believe, it matters what's actually true. I'm sure there are people who believe jesus appeared to them. There are also people who still believe the world is flat, and other's who think santa claus will bring them presents this year. When belief starts to matter, you can try that argument again.

Now, directing this back to the OP, jesus was an anti-christ. Is there anyone who can prove this wrong? Anyone at all? Or can we all except that christianity is based on a lie?
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
So you missed it when I pointed out that mormonism has been discredited, as well as judiasm and the entire abrahamic line? You want more? Perhaps you'd like to take a trip up mt olympus where the god's were to reside. Last I heard they'd not been found. Or perhaps you forgot that this thread's OP is about jesus? Shame on me for trying to keep it slightly on topic! I'd suggest you make a serperate post if you wish to continue this, and to start it and to save time perhaps you can list a religion or god series that is not easily debunked.

It doesn't matter what people believe, it matters what's actually true. I'm sure there are people who believe jesus appeared to them. There are also people who still believe the world is flat, and other's who think santa claus will bring them presents this year. When belief starts to matter, you can try that argument again.

I'm assuming you only have a developed understanding of Abrahamic God concepts. This is very common, and would explain you confidence in making the absolute statement. I don't care what you believe, or that the OP is about Jesus, I am simply criticising your use of absolute statements. It's both annoying and slightly offensive.
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
I'm assuming you only have a developed understanding of Abrahamic God concepts. This is very common, and would explain you confidence in making the absolute statement. I don't care what you believe, or that the OP is about Jesus, I am simply criticising your use of absolute statements. It's both annoying and slightly offensive.

And accurate. Now, yet again, this thread's about the fact that jesus is more aptly called an anti-christ than anthing else.

As such, I'll once again ask, can anyone offer anything that discredits this? Anyone? Anything? No? Okay then.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
And accurate. Now, yet again, this thread's about the fact that jesus is more aptly called an anti-christ than anthing else.

As such, I'll once again ask, can anyone offer anything that discredits this? Anyone? Anything? No? Okay then.

There are 16 pages of responses. Have you read them all?
 

pensive

Member
Bear in mind that the idea of the Anti-Christ is a product of Post-Millenial Dispensationiolism, as invented by Darby. In fact, the only time the term "anti-Christ" appears in the Bible at all, it's actually plural: "anti-Christs."
 

Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
Bear in mind that the idea of the Anti-Christ is a product of Post-Millenial Dispensationiolism, as invented by Darby. In fact, the only time the term "anti-Christ" appears in the Bible at all, it's actually plural: "anti-Christs."

True. And while of course there is no such thing as god, christs, or anti-christs, the fact remains that in christian dogmatic lore jesus aptly fits the definition of an anti-christ.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
For this thread? Yes, I believe I have, perhaps I missed one. Did a single one of them disprove that jesus is more aptly reffered to as an anti-christ?

I don't know, didn't read all the pages. I wasn't expecting any serious attempts to do so considering that this was a light-hearted thread.
 

Arthur Lucero

New Member
:punk:

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet...

But I don't think that the ha-shatan - the persecutor of mankind according to Scripture - would tell us to love our neighbor and bless the poor.


The Christ is to be born from man and woman. not from a celestrial being as, we read in genesis, before Jesus changed the times and seasons by his disciples using the new testiment which is only a translation from the old. just added names and different things taken out and things left. i mean even satan was able to decieve Job. and anyone can bring a false love. but also did not Jesus tell one of his disciples to not love your life. nor your parents. but only GOD. Jesus did taught also to not love the life you live. but yet the LIVING GOD throughout the old and new created life for us to live not die. reason he is the living GOD not the God of death .
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Think about it...What if Jesus was the antichrist? And what if the one that christians believe will be the antichrist is really their saviour? Then wouldn't christians technically be worshipping a false god?

Just thought this might be a fun conversation and debate. Opinions appreciated!
It would explain why a certain criminal became President.
 
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