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Hope
Princesinha
I hope to be in touch with some qualified linguists soon, for anyone who's interested. I found an online linguist forum, and submitted a request. Soooo....we'll see what happens!
By the way, Melody, I keep wanting to frubal you for your posts, but I can't---so, in spirit, at least, I frubal you. Everything you've said so far has been very insightful and well-put. Thank you.
I never realized this topic would be such a touchy subject!
By the way, Melody, I keep wanting to frubal you for your posts, but I can't---so, in spirit, at least, I frubal you.
Everything you've said so far has been very insightful and well-put. Thank you.I never realized this topic would be such a touchy subject!
Pah
Uber all member
Hope,
It is a spirit filled gift and if we can leave aside the question of the spirit, I'll relate my experiences.
There was time when I was born again. It seemed every week had an epiphany of rediscovering my faith. Strange things happened to me. All I read was the Bible and growing tired told God, sorry I've got to put this aside. Off I went to the book store and bought what I thought was a science-fiction book. Back in the room I discovered it was Hal Lindsey. - I had a real awakening.
Being aware of the gift, I had never heard tounges but I knew it was frequent amongst the born-again. I continued to read and added other sources of Christian learning. One day, alone in my apartment, I went to go inot the bedroom. Just in the doorway, I started to speak in tounges - a prayer to God. It was lilting and musical sound although not sung. I couldn't understand the words but I knew it was praise of God to God and he understood.
Subsequently, I heard for the first time tounges spoken by another - it was at a fund-raiser for the first Christian cable TV network. It was guttural and harsh and required a translator. I remember thinking that why did this message from God for all in the assembley need to be translated as it was. The message was for all not just the one doing the translation.
How do I reconcile these experiences and others with my Atheism? I still see spirit filled Christians - I see them overflowing with spirit, enthusiastic, loving , joyous. But I don't see them with Spirit I see them with spirit. That is a central part of thier life whether spirit is capitalized or not.
Is your Spirit bogus? NO, not in my mind. It is the mark of commitment and gladness in the commitment to holding and cherishing your faith. Glory in it, Girl. Keep it warm and part of yourself as long as you profess faith in God. I'm happy you have the Spirit.
It is a spirit filled gift and if we can leave aside the question of the spirit, I'll relate my experiences.
There was time when I was born again. It seemed every week had an epiphany of rediscovering my faith. Strange things happened to me. All I read was the Bible and growing tired told God, sorry I've got to put this aside. Off I went to the book store and bought what I thought was a science-fiction book. Back in the room I discovered it was Hal Lindsey. - I had a real awakening.
Being aware of the gift, I had never heard tounges but I knew it was frequent amongst the born-again. I continued to read and added other sources of Christian learning. One day, alone in my apartment, I went to go inot the bedroom. Just in the doorway, I started to speak in tounges - a prayer to God. It was lilting and musical sound although not sung. I couldn't understand the words but I knew it was praise of God to God and he understood.
Subsequently, I heard for the first time tounges spoken by another - it was at a fund-raiser for the first Christian cable TV network. It was guttural and harsh and required a translator. I remember thinking that why did this message from God for all in the assembley need to be translated as it was. The message was for all not just the one doing the translation.
How do I reconcile these experiences and others with my Atheism? I still see spirit filled Christians - I see them overflowing with spirit, enthusiastic, loving , joyous. But I don't see them with Spirit I see them with spirit. That is a central part of thier life whether spirit is capitalized or not.
Is your Spirit bogus? NO, not in my mind. It is the mark of commitment and gladness in the commitment to holding and cherishing your faith. Glory in it, Girl. Keep it warm and part of yourself as long as you profess faith in God. I'm happy you have the Spirit.
dorsk188
One-Eyed in Blindsville
Good luck, and keep us informed.Hope said:I hope to be in touch with some qualified linguists soon, for anyone who's interested. I found an online linguist forum, and submitted a request. Soooo....we'll see what happens!
Not touchy at all. Personally, I am really interested in what will come of this.Hope said:
Mr Spinkles
Mr
Well, you live in Virginia, right Hope? Try contacting a linguistics professor at UVA....the email of one such professor can be found on this page: http://www.virginia.edu/linguistics/
Hope
Princesinha
Thanks, Spinkles. I will check that out---I have actually already started checking out VA universities. I want to try to find someone relatively close to where I live ( Richmond ). I looked up Virginia Commonwealth University's website already, since it's here in town, but they don't seem to have much as far as linguistics go. My next search will be at the University of Richmond. UVA is about an hour's drive from me---not too bad---but if I can, I'm gonna see if I can find someone closer first.
Original Freak
I am the ORIGINAL Freak
I come at this question from total ignorance.
What's the point of speaking in tounges if you can't understand what your saying?
What's the point of speaking in tounges if you can't understand what your saying?
Hope
Princesinha
As one who does not believe in God or spiritual things, you may not think my answer makes much sense and will probably still not see the point of it. A spirit-related answer will only sound strange or silly to those who don't believe we are spiritual beings. At least, judging from many of the responses I've had so far, this is the conclusion I have come to.Original Freak said:
For me, personally, the point is communion between my spirit and God's, and more effective prayer. That's it.
Scott1
Well-Known Member
Just remember Hope:
Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church.
if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
(cf 1Cor 14:5-19)
Since you are eager to have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that build up the church.
if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.
(cf 1Cor 14:5-19)
In my experience and listening to the experiences of others close to the way I believe, speaking in tongues usually comes when we go into an intense devotional state, where we realize our love for the gods (or in a christian's case, God). It is a very emotional experience, it's like feeling the love and the divine presence of the gods flowing all over your soul. This happens to me alot, especially when I'm chanting prayers of passion to Ishtar, my goddess
dorsk188
One-Eyed in Blindsville
I've been away from my computer for a while, is this thread officially dead?
If not, I want to (re)bring up another possibility to Hope. A short recording of your experience, put online, would allow anyone who is interested, regardless of location, to attempt to find the meaning, if any, to what you are saying.
If not, I want to (re)bring up another possibility to Hope. A short recording of your experience, put online, would allow anyone who is interested, regardless of location, to attempt to find the meaning, if any, to what you are saying.