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Who is God of this world?

Who is God of this world?

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t3gah

t3gah

Well-Known Member
This is a poll and a discussion. The poll is there if you are like some people that would just post the options as a one worder anyway.

Voting options: God (G-d/Yahweh/Jehovah/God), Jesus (Word/Immanuel), Fallen angel (Satan/Devil/Beelzebub)


Please give people the option mister moderator/administrator and do not delete the poll. Thank you. :)_
 
Pah

Pah

Uber all member
t3gah said:
This is a poll and a discussion. The poll is there if you are like some people that would just post the options as a one worder anyway.

Voting options: God (G-d/Yahweh/Jehovah/God), Jesus (Word/Immanuel), Fallen angel (Satan/Devil/Beelzebub)


Please give people the option mister moderator/administrator and do not delete the poll. Thank you. :)_
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Gladly , but it will be done in Religious Debates, a more appropiate place.
 
michel

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
God (G-d/Yahweh/Jehovah/God) as he is of the Universive and whatever else there is, beyond that.:)
 
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Ronald

Well-Known Member
Isa 45:21 Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, the LORD? And there is no other God besides Me, A just God and a Savior; There is none besides Me. (NKJV)
Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me (AV)

If there is another God of this world! God doesn't speak truth, so why bother?

Y H V H is God of this world!
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I believe that the gods of this earth are the enlightened, highly evolved spiritualy people, such as Buddha, or Jesus. I believe that a spirit spends several life times journeying towards enlightenment, and this is born into a new life as a great teacher, healer, etc.
 
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ThisShouldMakeSense

Active Member
i reckon it's devil 2 Corinthins 4:4 says 'In which [the] god of this world, that is, the devil, hath blinded the souls of unfaithful men, that the lightening of the gospel of the glory of Christ, which is the image of God, shine not.'
which ties in with revelation 12:9 which reads...
'And that dragon was cast down, the great old serpent, that is called the Devil, and Satan, that deceiveth all the world; he was cast down [cast out] into the earth, and his angels were sent with him.'
 
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Ronald

Well-Known Member
ThisShouldMakeSense said:
i reckon it's devil 2 Corinthins 4:4 says 'In which [the] god of this world, that is, the devil, hath blinded the souls of unfaithful men, that the lightening of the gospel of the glory of Christ, which is the image of God, shine not.'
which ties in with revelation 12:9 which reads...
'And that dragon was cast down, the great old serpent, that is called the Devil, and Satan, that deceiveth all the world; he was cast down [cast out] into the earth, and his angels were sent with him.'
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By what supreme stretch do you get an interpretation to which Satan becomes god of this world? Just where does Paul identify this god?
2 Cor.4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Does this mean Paul is aiding satan in hiding the gospel? And that Satan is more powerful than God
Isa 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
Is Paul calling God a liar?

And Jesus said; Mt 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

ThisShouldMakeSense; Mt 22:29 Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
 
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ThisShouldMakeSense

Active Member
Ronald said:
By what supreme stretch do you get an interpretation to which Satan becomes god of this world? Just where does Paul identify this god?
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Here's where he identifies this god. Again, read various translations of this scripture.
New Living Translation: 4Satan, the god of this evil world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe, so they are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News that is shining upon them. They don't understand the message we preach about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

New Life Version: 4The eyes of those who do not believe are made blind by Satan who is the god of this world. He does not want the light of the Good News to shine in their hearts. This Good News shines as the shining-greatness of Christ. Christ is as God is.

there are these scriptures too.
John 16:11
and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. (Look up who that ruler is)

John 14:30
"I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me; (Again, look up that ruler.)

John 12:31: The time of judgment for the world has come, when the prince of this world[a] will be cast out. Footnotes: a The prince of this world is a name for Satan.

So there was no supreme stretch there for me to make the link.

Ronald said:
Does this mean Paul is aiding satan in hiding the gospel? And that Satan is more powerful than God
Is Paul calling God a liar?
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Er, nope, to all of the above.
 
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Ronald

Well-Known Member
ThisShouldMakeSense said:
Here's where he identifies this god. Again, read various translations of this scripture.
New Living Translation: 4Satan, the god of this evil world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe, so they are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News that is shining upon them. They don't understand the message we preach about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

New Life Version: 4The eyes of those who do not believe are made blind by Satan who is the god of this world. He does not want the light of the Good News to shine in their hearts. This Good News shines as the shining-greatness of Christ. Christ is as God is.

there are these scriptures too.
John 16:11
and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. (Look up who that ruler is)

John 14:30
"I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me; (Again, look up that ruler.)

John 12:31: The time of judgment for the world has come, when the prince of this world[a] will be cast out. Footnotes: a The prince of this world is a name for Satan.

So there was no supreme stretch there for me to make the link.

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Er, nope, to all of the above.
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Isa 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
So you say the Lord of Hosts lies!
 
Ori

Ori

Angel slayer
YOU are the God of this world, throgh your own choices are you saved or damned.
 
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Ronald

Well-Known Member
orichalcum said:
YOU are the God of this world, throgh your own choices are you saved or damned.
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Who do you say I am? Y H V H or Satan? I am not even sure I qualify as a Preist, let alone a god.
No, All I qualify as, is a sinner who has repented and turned to the God of Israel, therefore saved by grace of God. A free gift for believing and accepting His gift.
 
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