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LDS: Opinions on bishops advice

I wholeheartedly agree with Arkholt.

Bishops are human beings, who have been given keys that afford them the opportunity to council with wisdom. Bishops, like all of us, give council based on their life's experiences. Sometimes, that's all we get from them. Other times, we get that, mixed with inspired council from the Lord. And still other times, it's as though the Lord is speaking directly to us through them. I think it depends a lot on the mood he's in that day (did he have an argument with his wife just before meeting with you? Did he get caught up in the rumor mill at work that day? or has he been fasting and praying for 2 days straight?) But regardless, if your bishop gives you poor council, and you obey it... don't you think he would share some of the blame if ill comes of it? If, however, he gives you inspired council, and you choose not to obey it, who bears the burden of guilt? Safer for you to obey, either way, right? That's a good way to go, right? Perhaps not the BEST way, though. See, if you take the time to seek confirmation directly from the Lord, you may well spare the bishop who is having a bad day from having to repent so sorely for you having blindly following his foul council... ah, who knows. It's very late. I think my logic is taking the back seat.

Anyway, like Arkholt said, every situation is different. A bishop interviewing two people with the exact same situation may give two entirely different sets of council. Who knows but that the girl and boy would have committed an act that would have kept him home? Don't think the adversary heaps temptations upon you exponentially, the closer you get to something great? Think again.

Weak girl/boy? Very wise council. Pure and virtuous couple with steel determination? Perhaps not. My bet would be, if this council was given, Jack and Jill were about to tumble down the hill.
 

madhatter85

Transhumanist
I wholeheartedly agree with Arkholt.

Bishops are human beings, who have been given keys that afford them the opportunity to council with wisdom. Bishops, like all of us, give council based on their life's experiences. Sometimes, that's all we get from them. Other times, we get that, mixed with inspired council from the Lord. And still other times, it's as though the Lord is speaking directly to us through them. I think it depends a lot on the mood he's in that day (did he have an argument with his wife just before meeting with you? Did he get caught up in the rumor mill at work that day? or has he been fasting and praying for 2 days straight?) But regardless, if your bishop gives you poor council, and you obey it... don't you think he would share some of the blame if ill comes of it? If, however, he gives you inspired council, and you choose not to obey it, who bears the burden of guilt? Safer for you to obey, either way, right? That's a good way to go, right? Perhaps not the BEST way, though. See, if you take the time to seek confirmation directly from the Lord, you may well spare the bishop who is having a bad day from having to repent so sorely for you having blindly following his foul council... ah, who knows. It's very late. I think my logic is taking the back seat.

Anyway, like Arkholt said, every situation is different. A bishop interviewing two people with the exact same situation may give two entirely different sets of council. Who knows but that the girl and boy would have committed an act that would have kept him home? Don't think the adversary heaps temptations upon you exponentially, the closer you get to something great? Think again.

Weak girl/boy? Very wise council. Pure and virtuous couple with steel determination? Perhaps not. My bet would be, if this council was given, Jack and Jill were about to tumble down the hill.
A couple of notes,

Every counsel is given for us to pray about and make our own decisions. allowing others to tell us what is right and wrong is against gospel principles.

A lot of times there is no "Right or wrong" choice, but merely a "choice."

Saying that if someone stays together that a sin will be committed that prevents someone from going on a mission as if the choice is or was already made before it happens is wrong.

As far as a Bishop's mood affecting the outcome of counsel, the same would have to be said about anything, including patriarchal blessings. Was the Patriarch having an "off" day when he gave you your blessing? does that somehow invalidate the blessings bestowed at that time? i don't believe so.

But that's just my 2c
 
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