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Is it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin?

Autodidact

Autodidact

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Carico said:
You LOVE sex, only with people of your own gender.
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How would you know? Lesbians love, hate and are indifferent to sex in about the same ratio as heterosexual women. To the extent that we enjoy or have sex, we do so with other women. A celibate lesbian is still a lesbian.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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Carico said:
And what wold bring you to Jesus? condoning sin so you don't have to repent? :D You deny every piece of evidence for God that we give you. So please tell us what would bring you to Christ since you blame me for your beliefs and give me control over them. :)
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Speaking for myself, I'd say some evidence of His existence would go a long way. But that would be a separate thread.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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If I may speak for Carico (since she does such a lousy job of constructing a logical argument) I think her argument goes something like this:

There are two reasons for sex, reproduction and lust. Therefore, any sex which is not for reproduction is lust. Homosexual sex is not for reproduction, therefore it is nothing but lust. [And lust is a sin...]

Would that be right, Carico? If I may say so, I believe that Fatihah's reasoning is the same. Correct, Fatihah?

The flaw in this reasoning is the first premise. Due to her pitiful and limited experience, Carico has not experienced and cannot conceive of sex as an act of love. So the only response is pity, and hope that time will rectify this deficiency. Same for Fatihah. We should pray for them both to experience love.
 
Trey of Diamonds

Trey of Diamonds

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Carico said:
And what wold bring you to Jesus? condoning sin so you don't have to repent? :D You deny every piece of evidence for God that we give you. So please tell us what would bring you to Christ since you blame me for your beliefs and give me control over them. :)
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Why do we have to come to your Christ? I would much rather you came to my Christ as he is much nicer than yours.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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So Fatihah, did you want to demonstrate why lesbian sex is unnatural? It might help if you first define "natural."
 
Francis

Francis

UBER-Christian
Response: Why are you still posting, when you have nothing to say? Look, this is generally how a REAL post goes:
Response: The same way you know that cheetahs don't fly and sharks don't climb trees. I don't have to be or know personally a shark or cheetah to know that they don't do these things. All one has to do is understand their nature. Likewise, all I have to do is understand the nature of man and woman, which is not hard to understand, to know the relationship between lesbians are lust, not love.
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So basically, you're saying that your completely ignorant, but still convinced that you're right? When all else fails, fall back onto three-year-old logic! Peace!
 
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Fatihah

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[QUOTE Francis]Fatitah, shut up if you really don't have anything worth saying, 'kay?(End Quote)

Response: Why don't you follow your own advice. You haven't made any point to the subject.

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You sound like an ill-tempered fourth grader trying to sound smart on the internet. If you have something more to say, aside from snide comments, please, go ahead.
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Peace!(End Quote)

Response: Likewise.
 
Francis

Francis

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Wonderful. You're replys astound, as usual. Anyways, yes, i have. But it's okay if your readin can't keep up with your stunning replies, don't worry. We don't mind: We're all friends here.
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Peace!
 
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Fatihah

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Father Heathen said:
Fatihah's posts are amounting to little more than repetitious spam given that he (along with Carcio) is incapable of putting forth a coherent argument that's supported by logic and evidence.
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Response: Your inability to answer post 551 of page 56 proves to the contrary.
 
Francis

Francis

UBER-Christian
You got that one! Lets see... add 1 to negative... hmm... Anyways, Carico is wrong with that. Gay people aren't in love with the sex. They care about each other. Now, i don't think that it's the same kind of love that a married man and woman have, but i think its it's own type of love. You know, there are different types. Peace!
 
Quagmire

Quagmire

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Carico said:
Since you think you know better than Jesus does, I'm afraid you'll simply have to find out what kind of suffering you'll have first-hand. ;) The next best thing to your repentance is justice. :)
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I would bet that the "justice" concept appeals to you even more. I'm betting you're one of those "Christians" whose idea of heaven is spending eternity sitting in a chair with a box of popcorn watching everyone else writhing in hell. :)

Carico said:
Sounds like jealousy to me. But slander is all atheists have because they know they're condemned so I forgive them. :)
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If you really forgave them you wouldn't have any reason to bring it up. :)
 
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Fatihah

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[QUOTE Enlighten]So why then to put it bluntly do we see male dogs (gimme a word please someone - I already used balls today) ****somethining***** each other, and many other animals do the same? Now THEY are haven't been "exposed" to anything other than nature to "learn" to do this.(End Quote)

Response: There is no such thing as a homosexual animal, nor has anyone seen homosexual sex between two animals. The sad part is that someone here will actually lie and say that they have, which is even more unfortunate.

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And when talking about the relationships between two women or two men, then how can you understand this to be "lust" when infact this is YOUR judgement, I happen to know my cousins (and I use cousins not because it's incest but because they have a Civil partnership) are VERY much in love and have been for over 14 years, still LUST??? or LOVE??(End Quote)

Response: Surely you can love the same sex, but the act of sex is strictly coming from lust. Love has nothing to do with it. It's not natural. A man's penis is, by nature, supposed to go in a woman's vagina. Of course, you know this already. That's how reproduction is done. So this is the natural way. With the absence of a man, what exactly is the natural way 2 woman have sex? It's unnatural. The same for two men.

The attraction between the same sex sexually is coming from their own personal desires and when you act of your own desire, it is lust, not love. No man naturally develops the desire to have his anal injected by another man's private. You believe differently? No human being grows with a natural desire to have someone's private part in their mouth. You believe differently? Do we have to really question this? It's lust with a capital "L". I know it. You know it. Every homosexual knows it. But unfortunately, none of them (at least none here) are honest enough to say so.
 
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