Incest =bad.. autoeroticasphyxia, The marrage bed is undefiled . domestic abuse=bad
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Indeceny
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steadysetfire
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Are certain sexual acts indecent, or are these acts simply a matter of personal taste. Incest, is not a sexual act between two consenting adults. It is a sexual act where one is actually manipulating another individual, through their ignorance and lack of understanding to what they are doing. If this act involves various types of penetration, and it is done on the same type of individual, then it is known as rape. If for example someone engages a mentally ill, or mentally retarded person, in these type of acts, it is considered rape. The amount of comprehension that the two individuals have, as to the consequences of these acts, determines the degree of crime involved. Also, if bribery and threat were involved, in these acts, that also determines the degree of criminality. Financial equality, or inequality also have a determining factor. Many sexual acts that people consider to be fine, are in fact against the law, and they should be, against the law.
Circle_One
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But the death was accidental, this is what I'm saying. How could something that was not done on purpose, something that was not the expected outcome, be inherently indecent?
Well, considering this entire time I've been talking about consentual sex acts between to people at the age of adulthood and considering bestiality, necrophilia and frotteurism are NOT consentual, I think your strawman is blowing in the wind.
Did you really just say in not so many years that I'm psychologically damaged because of the sexual acts I enjoy partaking in? :areyoucra I don't even know what to say to that.
I do have a question though, in your opinion what sort of "psychological trauma" do you think one would have to endure in order to turn into a sexual freak like me? Be honest though. I'm not mad, or starting an argument or being *****y. I'm honestly curious about what you think. (I've been called worse, so no worries
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Yes; that would be a natural conclusion amongst rational, thinking adults. :yes:
That is why I ask. Where is the line drawn? Since sexual asphyxiation is considered a paraphilia. It is obvious the line is pushed back little by little every year. So far nothing terrible has resulted in it. 10 years from now how far will the line of what paraphilia is acceptable will be pushed back? Necrophilia? Bestiality? Pedophilia? How far are we willing to let ourselves go before we say "oops we effed up"?
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TOO late!
Dunemeister
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No, I get what you're saying (and for the record, I reinvent the English language on a daily basis, so have at it
But back to the topic at hand. I get that many people hold conservative sexual views, but simply because someone wouldn't engage in a specific sex act, does that really make the sex act indecent, or merely "meh, not for me"?
I take it that morality is objective, so no, it's not merely a matter of opinion. We all have different ranges of moral perceptiveness, and it's that, not the subjective nature of morality, which accounts for the range of moral opinion. Think of it as analogous to our physical senses detecting the physical world. Assuming our physical senses are functioning properly, we'll all pretty much agree with what we see (allowing, of course, for variation on the conceptual level). If our senses are dysfuntional, we'll form a wider range of beliefs about the physical world.
Of course, there may be sexual acts which are a matter of taste and don't have anything to do with morality. Oral sex, for example, and spitting or swallowing thereafter.
3.14
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yes but with proper precautiones auto.... isn't that dangerous
same as jumping out of a plane without a parachute because you figure you might get lucky and get rescued by a fellow jumper, and denting someones ferrari as you land facedown
if you had just used a parachute you wouldn't have died and dented a ferrari
steadysetfire
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As for someone wanting to be choked, as a form of entertainment, I think that is bizarre. But what I find very wrong, is any person who is willing to choke another person, in order that the other person may be pleasured. If your partner chokes you the wrong way, you would end up dead. Where the two of you were consenting adults, I wonder if he or she would be charged with your murder. Do you think that anyone on a jury would buy the fact that you were simply into choke me, make me happy games? He or she would probably go to the slammer.
Because there is a difference between an accident like driving your car and tire blowing out causing you to kill someone else on the road vs choking your self/someone else and killing them because it makes it more "exciting". I do not care how exciting it is, it is not worth death.
Did you really just say in not so many years that I'm psychologically damaged because of the sexual acts I enjoy partaking in? :areyoucra I don't even know what to say to that.
I do have a question though, in your opinion what sort of "psychological trauma" do you think one would have to endure in order to turn into a sexual freak like me? Be honest though. I'm not mad, or starting an argument or being *****y. I'm honestly curious about what you think. (I've been called worse, so no worries
No I am saying that there could be psychological trauma somewhere in your life that has caused you to like being choked. It is possible you do not even remember the trauma itself,because you block the trauma, but you use sexual asphyxiation to repeat it. I am not a licensed psychologist so I will not try sort out why you have or what the psychological trauma could be. Like I said I could be wrong, this is my personal opinion.
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Circle_One
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First, it's not exactly a form of entertainment. It's a form of heightening the sexual experience of orgasm by blocking off your airways. It makes for a more intense orgasm.
Second, the person would be charged with involuntary manslaughter, and the reason it would be involuntary manslaughter rather than simply manslaughter or murder is because erotic asphyxiation is a KNOWN paraphilia. It's plausible and believable because people know that other people do it. But the statistics of death by erotic asphyxiation (having someone else block your airways), versus auto-erotic asphyxiation (blocking your own airways) are more in the corner of auto-erotic asphyxiation, because it's not as easy to control.
People who engage in erotic-asphyxiation often have "safety words" in which the one who is being choked can utter as a means of saying "Ok, that's too much, let me breathe now), or signals used in the same regard, such as tapping out.
One can't exactly use a safety word on themselves, when they've got a rope around their neck and can't get to it in time.
Circle_One
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I understand what you're saying, I really do, but the point I'm trying to make is simply because it accidentally caused a death, does not make it indecent. Because you said so yourself, if it's in the privacy of their own home, in a loving relationship, between consenting adults, etc etc, it's fine, but because it caused a death it made it indecent. Therefore death=indecency.
And just for the record, again, it's not because it's "exciting". It has nothing do with that whatsoever.
Well we will just have to agree to disagree then.
Circle_One
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steadysetfire
Member
Do people ever get brain damage by diminishing the oxygen supply to their brains, in this manner?
Circle_One
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I'm honestly unsure as I've never looked up the statistics, but I'd go as far to say that it would be more plausible with auto-erotic asphyxiation, than with erotic asphyxiation.. again because of the safety words/signals.
Then we have to ask: Whose line?
