Master Vigil
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Exactly, and I'm sorry if I meditate for myself, I do meditate for others at times but enlightenment does not come from other people, it comes from within you.
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Hats off in church
- Thread starter LilChrist
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Maybe I am oldfashioned, but I think that any man wearing a hat/cap/etc. indoors is being just rude. I am almost shocked by the fact that some kids wear caps in class, and that teachers seem to have no way to prevent it. As for girls/women, I don't care. (I won't enter any discussion on headcloths like those traditionally worn in Sweden or like the hijab and niqab usually associated with Islam.)
Personally, I never wear headgear, if the temperature is above minus 10 deg C. And I don't go to church(es) anymore, but if I were to attend to a christening or wedding or funeral in a church, I would try not to wear anything that might be considered inappropriate by other visitors.
Personally, I never wear headgear, if the temperature is above minus 10 deg C. And I don't go to church(es) anymore, but if I were to attend to a christening or wedding or funeral in a church, I would try not to wear anything that might be considered inappropriate by other visitors.
This subject comes from (1 Corinthians 11:1-16) where the Apostle Paul had to order a secular custom into the church, the veiling of women, who had their hair shorn so that they looked like men. The converts under discussion, had come out of their pagan religion where the women were the more dominate. So, these women were to wear veils (as a covering) till their natural (covering) long hair appeared. This was an effort to try to bring the women back into their God given role...to be in subjection. (1 Cor. 11:1-16)
The men were to get their long hair (covering) shorn off, because they were still playing the role of the woman, thus dishonoring Christ. (1 Cor. 11:3,4)
The only natural (covering) for the man & woman in 1 Cor.11 is long hair. The ancient writings closest to the time of 1 Cor. 11 say that the word for (covering) means to 'hang down from the head' So, if at that time in the church at Corinth, Yaser Araffat would have been in trouble because he wears an unnatural (covering) called a Smagh. The high ranking Arabs wear the white with a black ring at the crown, unnatural covering, called a Shora.
The passage of 1 Cor.11:1-16 would only apply today if the women became the dominate sex outside the church, and then they were baptized into Christ and started behaving as the women of Corinth in the assemblies. Taking the lead positions.
The men were to get their long hair (covering) shorn off, because they were still playing the role of the woman, thus dishonoring Christ. (1 Cor. 11:3,4)
The only natural (covering) for the man & woman in 1 Cor.11 is long hair. The ancient writings closest to the time of 1 Cor. 11 say that the word for (covering) means to 'hang down from the head' So, if at that time in the church at Corinth, Yaser Araffat would have been in trouble because he wears an unnatural (covering) called a Smagh. The high ranking Arabs wear the white with a black ring at the crown, unnatural covering, called a Shora.
The passage of 1 Cor.11:1-16 would only apply today if the women became the dominate sex outside the church, and then they were baptized into Christ and started behaving as the women of Corinth in the assemblies. Taking the lead positions.
mikeMcGummary
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I am knew here and I find the debates enlightening, to say the least.
Wow, a great discussion forum with many varied topics
Wow, a great discussion forum with many varied topics
Often.
(Sorry. I tend to bristle as questions like "Is it X or is it a letter?")
FWIW, I wear a kippah at services.
mikeMcGummary
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Excuse my ignorance but I must ask; what is a kippah--?
I guess I could google it, but it is your definition that counts, not a google version
Just asking
No animosity intended or implied
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Oh.... the pope is in so much trouble.
In the Navy it was considered respectful, and one's duty, to remove their head covering while eating in the ships Mess.
But this is out of respect for the deceased that have perished on the very tables we eat from, as it doubles as our mass casualty infirmary.
But this is out of respect for the deceased that have perished on the very tables we eat from, as it doubles as our mass casualty infirmary.
mikeMcGummary
*banned*
Thank you.
I wish you and yours a very merry Christmas and a very, very happy new year.
& beyond.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yea. That was always been a regulation in the military as far as I know to take your helmet, or hat or beret off indoors.
rocala
Well-Known Member
and a great number of nurses and chefs.
In the Navy we actually can wear our cover indoors on the Ship (and moat other base locations while on duty status). It's why there is a rule about the Mess.
The army dudes always got mad at us for it lmao
Altfish
Veteran Member
Yes, I overlooked the need for PPE,
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Presently, it is no longer typical for people in Western cultures to wear hats. There are subgroups for which this is not true, such as Orthodox Jewish men or Muslim women who wear a hijab. But basically, if you enter a church, you will not find anyone wearing a hat.
In the past, the norm was that men removed their hats in church, while women kept their hats on. It's just culture. There is nothing objectively moral or immoral about wearing a hat in church.