What was jesus doing in his younger years?

Lets say from 8-18.

What do you think he was going through?

and plz don't say puberty!!.. :lol:

Rex_Admin said:

Lets say from 8-18.

What do you think he was going through?

and plz don't say puberty!!.. :lol:

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Well its a well known fact that he was preaching in the temples at the age of 13. As to what he was going through I dont know but I would have to say he knew what his destiny in life was.

If it is true that he came from a privilaged family, I imagine he was going to school. Children began to be educated at about the age of 12 back then, right? Perhaps he was being educated AT the temple, and while he was there he began educating THEM.

A book that directly addresses your question is entitled, The Traditions Of Glastonbury, by E. Raymond Capt. Mr. Capt is a highly-regarded archeologist.

Among his discoveries is the fact that Joseph of Arimathaea was Jesus' uncle (the brother of Mary). Joseph was a wealthy shipping merchant who provisioned Rome with lead and tin from some of the world's largest mines in the world of that time, among which were in the Mendip Hills of Britain.

So wealthy and influential was Joseph that Rome gave him the title, "Nobilus Decurio."

There is archeological evidence that Jesus traveled extensively with his uncle in his youth, including to Britain. Mary too accompanied them on some of these trips. However, there is no evidence that Jesus' father Joseph ever accompanied them. It is likely that Joseph of Arimathaea became Jesus' legal guardian and Mary's protector, given that Mary's husband Joseph likely died at some time in Jesus' youth.

I found Capt's book enormously helpful, in more ways than one. It does a tremendous job of filling in that age 12-30 gap of Jesus' life that isn't discussed in the Bible. Artisan Publishing

kirkguardian said:

A book that directly addresses your question is entitled, The Traditions Of Glastonbury, by E. Raymond Capt. Mr. Capt is a highly-regarded archeologist.

Among his discoveries is the fact that Joseph of Arimathaea was Jesus' uncle (the brother of Mary). Joseph was a wealthy shipping merchant who provisioned Rome with lead and tin from some of the world's largest mines in the world of that time, which were in the Mendip Hills of Britain.

So wealthy and influential was Joseph that Rome gave him the title, "Nobilus Decurio."

There is archeological evidence that Jesus traveled extensively with his uncle in his youth, including to Britain. Mary too accompanied them on some of these trips. However, there is no evidence that Jesus' father Joseph ever accompanied them. It is likely that Joseph of Arimathaea became Jesus' legal guardian and Mary's protector, given that Mary's husband Joseph likely died at some time in Jesus' youth.

I found Capt's book enormously helpful, in more ways than one. It does a tremendous job of filling in that age 12-30 gap of Jesus' life that isn't discussed in the Bible.
Artisan Publishing

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That does look like a good book. HMM free shipping too.

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I had the privilege of hearing Ray speak on this subject some years ago. I was nothing short of stunned by the knowledge this man possesses. Ray has also produced a video on The Traditions Of Glastonbury.

Among his discoveries is the fact that Joseph of Arimathaea was Jesus' uncle (the brother of Mary). Joseph was a wealthy shipping merchant who provisioned Rome with lead and tin from some of the world's largest mines in the world of that time, which were in the Mendip Hills of Britain.

um..I grew up in the mendip hills...
Cornwall is actually more known for tin...the mendips arte lime stone chiefly

Geology

Geology influences the shape of the landscape and the landuse. About 290 million years ago the area was strongly folded, faulted and uplifted. Later hot mineralizing fluids began to permeate the limestone rocks, forming lead and zinc ore bodies. Since then erosion has cut across the folds to form the Mendip Hills. As a result of the rock being folded and uplifted the underlying Devonian Old Red Sandstone emerges where the limestone has been eroded. Surrounding the Old Red Sandstone exposures are the Lower Limestone Shales succeeded by the main mass of the Carboniferous Limestone.
http://www.mendiphillsaonb.org.uk/aonb/intro.htm#geo

As far as Jesus and Glastonbury yes ...thre's a huge connection....

http://www.strum.co.uk/twilight/glas2.htm is one of my fave websites....

Having grown up in the area I could write an essay for the knowledge base...lol......


Blake's poem come hymn...to Jesus and Glastonbury...
A personal fave of mine.....one I shall have at my funeral..lol

Jerusalem


1 And did those feet in ancient time
2 Walk upon England's mountains green?
3 And was the holy Lamb of God
4 On England's pleasant pastures seen?

5 And did the Countenance Divine
6 Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
7 And was Jerusalem builded here
8 Among these dark Satanic mills?

9 Bring me my bow of burning gold:
10 Bring me my arrows of desire:
11 Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold!
12 Bring me my chariot of fire.

13 I will not cease from mental fight,
14 Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
15 Till we have built Jerusalem
16 In England's green and pleasant land.

Keep in mind that Jesus was a carpenter. He probably spent several years of his life learning that trade from his father, Joseph.

What does the Bible say about Jesus' brothers and sisters ?

There is great confusion in christian belief. Below is an excerpt from The Urantia Book.






Mary and Joseph had 9 children and these are their names and birthdays:

JESUS-AUG/21/7 B.C.

JAMES-APR/2/3 B.C.

MIRIAM-JULY/11/2 B.C.

JOSEPH-MAR/16/ 1 A.D.

SIMON-APR/14/ 2 A.D.

MARTHA-SEP/13/ 3 A.D.

JUDE-JUNE /24/ 5 A.D.

AMOS-JAN /9/ 7 A.D.

RUTH-APR/17/ 9 A.D.

On SEP/25/ 8 A.D. Joseph, the father, dies in a construction accident. Jesus, 14 at the time of his father's death, becomes the head of the household and is responible for the welfare of the whole family.



2. THE DEATH OF JOSEPH


All did go well until that fateful day of Tuesday, September 25, when a runner from Sepphoris brought to this Nazareth home the tragic news that Joseph had been severely injured by the falling of a derrick while at work on the governor's residence. The messenger from Sepphoris had stopped at the shop on the way to Joseph's home, informing Jesus of his father's accident, and they went together to the house to break the sad news to Mary. Jesus desired to go immediately to his father, but Mary would hear to nothing but that she must hasten to her husband's side. She directed that James, then ten years of age, should accompany her to Sepphoris while Jesus remained home with the younger children until she should return, as she did not know how seriously Joseph had been injured. But Joseph died of his injuries before Mary arrived. They brought him to Nazareth, and on the following day he was laid to rest with his fathers.

Just at the time when prospects were good and the future looked bright, an apparently cruel hand struck down the head of this Nazareth household, the affairs of this home were disrupted, and every plan for Jesus and his future education was demolished. This carpenter lad, now just past fourteen years of age, awakened to the realization that he had not only to fulfill the commission of his heavenly Father to reveal the divine nature on earth and in the flesh, but that his young human nature must also shoulder the responsibility of caring for his widowed mother and seven brothers and sisters÷and another yet to be born. This lad of Nazareth now became the sole support and comfort of this so suddenly bereaved family. Thus were permitted those occurrences of the natural order of events on Urantia which would force this young man of destiny so early to assume these heavy but highly educational and disciplinary responsibilities attendant upon becoming the head of a human family, of becoming father to his own brothers and sisters, of supporting and protecting his mother, of functioning as guardian of his father's home, the only home he was to know while on this world.

Jesus cheerfully accepted the responsibilities so suddenly thrust upon him, and he carried them faithfully to the end. At least one great problem and anticipated difficulty in his life had been tragically solved÷he would not now be expected to go to Jerusalem to study under the rabbis. It remained always true that Jesus "sat at no man's feet." He was ever willing to learn from even the humblest of little children, but he never derived authority to teach truth from human sources.

Still he knew nothing of the Gabriel visit to his mother before his birth; he only learned of this from John on the day of his baptism, at the beginning of his public ministry.

As the years passed, this young carpenter of Nazareth increasingly measured every institution of society and every usage of religion by the unvarying test: What does it do for the human soul? does it bring God to man? does it bring man to God? While this youth did not wholly neglect the recreational and social aspects of life, more and more he devoted his time and energies to just two purposes: the care of his family and the preparation to do his Father's heavenly will on earth.



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This year it became the custom for the neighbors to drop in during the winter evenings to hear Jesus play upon the harp, to listen to his stories (for the lad was a master storyteller), and to hear him read from the Greek scriptures.


The economic affairs of the family continued to run fairly smoothly as there was quite a sum of money on hand at the time of Joseph's death. Jesus early demonstrated the possession of keen business judgment and financial sagacity. He was liberal but frugal; he was saving but generous. He proved to be a wise and efficient administrator of his father's estate.

But in spite of all that Jesus and the Nazareth neighbors could do to bring cheer into the home, Mary, and even the children, were overcast with sadness. Joseph was gone. Joseph was an unusual husband and father, and they all missed him. And it seemed all the more tragic to think that he died ere they could speak to him or hear his farewell blessing.



. JESUS' EARTH PARENTS

Joseph was a mild-mannered man, extremely conscientious, and in every way faithful to the religious conventions and practices of his people. He talked little but thought much. The sorry plight of the Jewish people caused Joseph much sadness. As a youth, among his eight brothers and sisters, he had been more cheerful, but in the earlier years of married life (during Jesus' childhood) he was subject to periods of mild spiritual discouragement. These temperamental manifestations were greatly improved just before his untimely death and after the economic condition of his family had been enhanced by his advancement from the rank of carpenter to the role of a prosperous contractor.

Mary's temperament was quite opposite to that of her husband. She was usually cheerful, was very rarely downcast, and possessed an ever-sunny disposition. Mary indulged in free and frequent expression of her emotional feelings and was never observed to be sorrowful until after the sudden death of Joseph. And she had hardly recovered from this shock when she had thrust upon her the anxieties and questionings aroused by the extraordinary career of her eldest son, which was so rapidly unfolding before her astonished gaze. But throughout all this unusual experience Mary was composed, courageous, and fairly wise in her relationship with her strange and little-understood first-born son and his surviving brothers and sisters.

Jesus derived much of his unusual gentleness and marvelous sympathetic understanding of human nature from his father; he inherited his gift as a great teacher and his tremendous capacity for righteous indignation from his mother. In emotional reactions to his adult-life environment, Jesus was at one time like his father, meditative and worshipful, sometimes characterized by apparent sadness; but more often he drove forward in the manner of his mother's optimistic and determined disposition. All in all, Mary's temperament tended to dominate the career of the divine Son as he grew up and swung into the momentous strides of his adult life. In some particulars Jesus was a blending of his parents' traits; in other respects he exhibited the traits of one in contrast with those of the other.

From Joseph Jesus secured his strict training in the usages of the Jewish ceremonials and his unusual acquaintance with the Hebrew scriptures; from Mary he derived a broader viewpoint of religious life and a more liberal concept of personal spiritual freedom.



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The families of both Joseph and Mary were well educated for their time. Joseph and Mary were educated far above the average for their day and station in life. He was a thinker; she was a planner, expert in adaptation and practical in immediate execution. Joseph was a black-eyed brunet; Mary, a brown-eyed well-nigh blond type.



Had Joseph lived, he undoubtedly would have become a firm believer in the divine mission of his eldest son. Mary alternated between believing and doubting, being greatly influenced by the position taken by her other children and by her friends and relatives, but always was she steadied in her final attitude by the memory of Gabriel's appearance to her immediately after the child was conceived.

Mary was an expert weaver and more than averagely skilled in most of the household arts of that day; she was a good housekeeper and a superior homemaker. Both Joseph and Mary were good teachers, and they saw to it that their children were well versed in the learning of that day.

When Joseph was a young man, he was employed by Mary's father in the work of building an addition to his house, and it was when Mary brought Joseph a cup of water, during a noontime meal, that the courtship of the pair who were destined to become the parents of Jesus really began.

Joseph and Mary were married, in accordance with Jewish custom, at Mary's home in the environs of Nazareth when Joseph was twenty-one years old. This marriage concluded a normal courtship of almost two years' duration. Shortly thereafter they moved into their new home in Nazareth, which had been built by Joseph with the assistance of two of his brothers. The house was located near the foot of the near-by elevated land which so charmingly overlooked the surrounding countryside. In this home, especially prepared, these young and expectant parents had thought to welcome the child of promise, little realizing that this momentous event of a universe was to transpire while they would be absent from home in Bethlehem of Judea.

The larger part of Joseph's family became believers in the teachings of Jesus, but very few of Mary's people ever believed in him until after he departed from this world. Joseph leaned more toward the spiritual concept of the expected Messiah, but Mary and her family, especially her father, held to the idea of the Messiah as a temporal deliverer and political ruler. Mary's ancestors had been prominently identified with the Maccabean activities of the then but recent times.

Joseph held vigorously to the Eastern, or Babylonian, views of the Jewish religion; Mary leaned strongly toward the more liberal and broader Western, or Hellenistic, interpretation of the law and the prophets.


[ from The Urantia Book ]



Cheers

Christ was quietly learning, studying and living the Gospel He would subsequently fulfill. He needed not that any man teach Him; He learned everything He needed to directly from the Spirit. His communication with the Spirit was not limited by distraction and sin as is ours. As He grew to comprehend the Gospel He absorbed and lived it 100%.

there is little written that we have the privledge of getting our eyes on . But we know He was throughout Europe and Asia , Egypt. I feel that Jesus after being found in the temple with the priests and had come of age traveled extensively throughout his next 15 years until we learn of him in the NT. I don't see where God would't have wanted him to teach his message with his unlimited knowledge to the world religions in India, China, ...wherever he could get to. Most religions accept Jesus as a messenger ,at the least ,of God . Some claim to have "pictures" of Christ teaching , discussing with their priests as a child . There are libraries we don't have access to out there WHY??? we might find out the truth??? For us who love to discuss and learn "seek wisdom" we need to read all we can and be open minded on all religions If we believe that Jesus is the son of God that doesn't mean we can't read the Quran, The Gnostic books, ... In these we may find an answer that grows us in our faith, bring us closer to God than we could have imagined through the Bible alone, although this is the only "divine" book we know of .but then again even this makes me wonder as with the Quran , Muhammed claims that Gabriel gave him these words , and who is to say that believing in the way of Budahism isn't pure . I'm getting way off track here now, but, I do feel that Jesus taught and traveled to everywhere he could possibly get to within this time frame and when he was done He then came back to his homeland to complete his mission

I'm very sorry, but that book makes it sound like Jesus was "learning" to become a messiah and implies that he just saw an oppertunity to fill in a gap in history. I'm not attacking Christianity, but it feels to me that that book has a undertone to it. I feel that if he's the son of God, then he wouldn't need to study scriptures and such, because he'd know first hand what the absolute truth was...

...but the I start thinking about other people. They might've called him unlearned or something if he didn't...


This type of thinking makes my head hurt. We need a more confused looking smiley for threads like this...

Isn't it possible that the alledged travels of Jesus to Egypt as a child is a myth, created in order to bring his life in line with biblical prophecy?

Think about what a roller coaster of acceptance that is. To accept such a mission. Accept the donation of your living life and to fling yourself headlong at miserable death. Jesus was likely, in addition to learning carpentry and preaching in temple (likely preaching Jewish philosophy), he was likely also coming to terms with his vocation and questioning his own sanity.


Dealing, psycologically with such a thing must be such a trial!

Master Hoomer,


You touched a nerve in your post:-

Part quote "Blake's poem come hymn...to Jesus and Glastonbury...
A personal fave of mine.....one I shall have at my funeral..lol"


I absolutely agree with you - and probably one of my very own favourites (For some reason I always have tears in my eyes when I sing that)- I'd never thought to have it sung at my funeral; perhaps I should add a codecil!

kirkguardian said:

A book that directly addresses your question is entitled, The Traditions Of Glastonbury, by E. Raymond Capt. Mr. Capt is a highly-regarded archeologist.

Among his discoveries is the fact that Joseph of Arimathaea was Jesus' uncle (the brother of Mary). Joseph was a wealthy shipping merchant who provisioned Rome with lead and tin from some of the world's largest mines in the world of that time, among which were in the Mendip Hills of Britain.

So wealthy and influential was Joseph that Rome gave him the title, "Nobilus Decurio."

There is archeological evidence that Jesus traveled extensively with his uncle in his youth, including to Britain. Mary too accompanied them on some of these trips. However, there is no evidence that Jesus' father Joseph ever accompanied them. It is likely that Joseph of Arimathaea became Jesus' legal guardian and Mary's protector, given that Mary's husband Joseph likely died at some time in Jesus' youth.

I found Capt's book enormously helpful, in more ways than one. It does a tremendous job of filling in that age 12-30 gap of Jesus' life that isn't discussed in the Bible. Artisan Publishing

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I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. It's probably my catholic upbringing.

So if there is all this archeological evidence, why do people still not people that Jesus existed?

Rex said:

Lets say from 8-18.

What do you think he was going through?

and plz don't say puberty!!.. :lol:

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I believe that Jesus probably spent the 8-18 years much as any other young Jewish boy would have. Studying the Torah and learning his father's trade.

what was jesus doing during his youth...

what we were all doing in our younger days...drinkin' beers and smokin' weed!
Snoogins!


come on ya'll he was probably just being a kid...isn't that entirely possible?

jewscout said:

what was jesus doing during his youth...

what we were all doing in our younger days...drinkin' beers and smokin' weed!
Snoogins!


come on ya'll he was probably just being a kid...isn't that entirely possible?

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But Jesus was sinless and incapable of committing sin. I'd imagine that means he wouldn't be smokin' weed or doing some of the other rebellious little acts that would be against his parental and religious beliefs. If he had, he would have committed a sin.