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Jesus Christ Rose on the Third Day

FFH

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Simplified Version

Sunday Christ announces that the feast of the passover is in two days and that he will be betrayed.

Monday A woman annoints Jesus Christ's feet with oil in preparation for his burial.

Tuesday 6 pm Passover begins and Christ and his disciples sit down to the passover meal, which is referred to as 'The Last Supper".

Tuesday Probably Around 9 pm Jesus prays and suffers in the Garden of Gethsemane.
Tuesday Probably Around 12 am Jesus betrayed and arrested.

Wednesday 9 am Christ nailed to the cross.
Wednesday 12 pm It becomes dark until 3:00 pm
Wednesday 3 pm Christ dies on the cross.
Wednesday Prior to 6 pm Christ placed in the tomb.
Wednesday at 6 pm "Seven Day Feast of Unleavened Bread" begins

Thursday First day of the "Seven Day Feast of the Unleavened bread", which is a sabbath day, or holy convocation. The tomb is sealed and guards are place at the entrance.

Friday

Saturday (weekly sabbath)- Jesus Christ is resurrected at no earlier than 3:00 pm and no later than 6:00 pm for the prophecy to be fulfilled that he would "rise on the third day". This event happens with no human witnesses. "The Shroud of Turin" is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ, which has the imprint of the resurrected Christ's body burned into it, and is the only physical evidence of Christ's resurrection.

Sunday Before Dawn Mary Magdeline discovers the tomb is empty.
Sunday at Dawn Christ appears to Mary Magdeline.
Sunday Night Christ appears to his disciples, except Thomas who was absent.

Eight Days Later Christ appears to his disciples again and shows himself to Thomas.


More Detailed Version

Christ was crucified on Wednesday (died at 3pm) and was first seen by Mary Magdalene on Sunday at before dawn.

Sunday- Jesus said unto his disciples, "Ye know that after two days is the feast of the Passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified. Matthew 26: 2

Monday- "There came a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat. But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, to what purpose is this waste ? For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor. When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman ? for she hath wrought a good work upon me. For ye have the poor always with you, but me ye have not always. For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial". Matthew 26: 7-12

Tuesday- "Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover ? -Matthew 26: 17. And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them, and they made ready the passover". Matthew 26: 19

Passover is from Tuesday 6 pm to Wednesday 6 pm.
"And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord." Numbers 28: 16

Tuesday 6 pm- "Now when the even (6:00 pm) was come, he sat down with the twelve and they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me....-Matthew 26: 20-25 They eat the passover meal, and break bread and drink the wine for the Last Supper and Jesus says that Peter will deny him three times before the **** crows."Matthew 26: 26-35

Tuesday evening after the Last Supper- Jesus Christ and his disciples go to the Garden of Gethsemane and Jesus prays three times. Matthew 26: 36-44

Tuesday probably around midnight- "Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me. And while he yet spake , lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people...."Jesus Christ is betrayed and led away captive. Matthew 26: 45-57

Wednesday probably after midnight to 6 am- Caiaphas and the other chief priests and elders work Jesus over pretty good. He is spit upon and smitten. Peter denies Christ two times. Matthew 26: 58-72

Wednesday probably around 6 am- "And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of then, for thy speech betrayeth thee. Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man, and immediately the coc k crew". Matthew 26:73-74

Wednesday 6 am, or early morning- "When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death: And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor". Matthew 27:1-2 Judas hangs himself, Pilot works Jesus over, he then asks if the Jews want Barabbas or Jesus released. Matthew 27: 2-23

Wednesday before 9 am- The Jews cry for Jesus to be crucified and Pilot has him scourged and sent to be crucified. Jesus is given a scarlet robe, crown of thorns, and a reed in his right hand. He is then mocked and spit upon. They take the reed from his hand and smite him on the head. They take his robe off and he is led away to be crucified. Matthew 27: 23--31

Wednesday 9 am- "And it was the third hour (you must add three hours from 6:00 am), and they crucified him". Mark 15: 25

Wednesday 12 pm-3 pm- "Now from the sixth hour (you add 6 hours from 6:00 am) there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. (you add 9 hours from 6:00 am) About the ninth hour (again you add 9 hours from 6:00 am) Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying Eli Eli, Lam sabachthani ? that is to say, My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me ? Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost". Matthew 27: 45-46, 50

Wednesday 3 pm- "Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God". Matthew 27: 54

Wednesday 6 pm- "When the even (6 pm) was come, there came a rich man of Arimathea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple. He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered. And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed". Matthew 27: 57-60

The day after the passover, from Wednesday 6 pm to Thursday 6 pm, was the first day of the seven day feasts of unleavened bread, which was an holy convocation, or sabbath day. "And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten. In the first day shall be an holy convocation, ye shall do no manner of servile work therein." Numbers 28: 17,18


Thursday- "Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation (Passover), the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, Saying Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again. Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first. Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can. So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch". Matthew 27: 62-66

Friday-

Saturday- weekly sabbath. Christ was resurrected after 3 pm but no later than 6 pm. The prophecy was than fulfilled which said that he would "rise the third day".

Sunday towards dawn- "In the end of the sabbath (Saturday evening), as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher. And, behold there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, an sat upon it. And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead. And as they went to tell his disciples, behold Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him". Matthew 28: 1,2,5-9

Note: This is my own research, I didn't copy and past it from any site.

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Poisonshady313

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Are you avoiding me? This is the third time I've seen you post this... but you haven't answered my responses to you.
 

FFH

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Are you avoiding me? This is the third time I've seen you post this... but you haven't answered my responses to you.
You posted in the LDS DIR (Discuss Individual Religion) forum the second time you tried to debate me and that's not a debate forum, I couldn't debate you there, so I started this thread, so we can debate, although I don't see anything to debate, the timeline is correct.
 

Poisonshady313

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Sorry. After my post here, I checked for that, and realized my error. I won't be posting there anymore. Hopefully, though, we can address it here.


You are mistaken. I pointed this out in the other thread. If Passover was Wednesday night, it most assuredly was not on Tuesday.

Numbers 28: 16 refers to bringing the offering to the temple to be slaughtered. The holiday/feast began at sunset, when it became the 15th of Nisan... according to your timeline, Wednesday night.
 

whatalife

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i used to believe this, but now im not so sure. i was raised in a christian family, but i've undergone rethinking of where my life is going, how i want to live it, and what religion i really want to follow. i've come to the conclusion that everyone needs to find their own way to god and heaven. if you think that Jesus really did rise from the dead, then that's okay. however, i don't think that if you're muslim or jewish or buddhist your not going to go to heaven. on the contrary, i believe that if your religion wants you to do right, then you are going to heaven. to get to heaven, i think you not only need talk whatever talk you listen to, but i also believe that you need to walk the walk to get into heaven. i mean that you need to to good, be tolerant, and help the poor out. even if you are atheist. if you are a good person and have lived a good life, then you are going to heaven.
 

Poisonshady313

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i used to believe this, but now im not so sure. i was raised in a christian family, but i've undergone rethinking of where my life is going, how i want to live it, and what religion i really want to follow. i've come to the conclusion that everyone needs to find their own way to god and heaven. if you think that Jesus really did rise from the dead, then that's okay. however, i don't think that if you're muslim or jewish or buddhist your not going to go to heaven. on the contrary, i believe that if your religion wants you to do right, then you are going to heaven. to get to heaven, i think you not only need talk whatever talk you listen to, but i also believe that you need to walk the walk to get into heaven. i mean that you need to to good, be tolerant, and help the poor out. even if you are atheist. if you are a good person and have lived a good life, then you are going to heaven.

Welcome to the board! I appreciate your sentiments... however I regret to inform you they're not entirely pertinent to this specific thread. Perhaps you could open a thread in the General religious discussion, or general religious debate section, and people can talk about your beliefs there.

I trust you'll have a good time around here. Good people, good times.
 

Poisonshady313

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I couldn't debate you there, so I started this thread, so we can debate, although I don't see anything to debate, the timeline is correct.

If you don't see anything to debate, it was silly to open a thread in the debate forum. Perhaps instead you could have answered me in the "Three days, Three nights" thread I started.
 

FFH

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Shady said:
You are mistaken. I pointed this out in the other thread. If Passover was Wednesday night, it most assuredly was not on Tuesday.

Numbers 28: 16 refers to bringing the offering to the temple to be slaughtered. The holiday/feast began at sunset, when it became the 15th of Nisan... according to your timeline, Wednesday night.
Numbers 28

Tuesday after 6 pm (Christ eats the Passover meal with his disciples, breaks bread and drinks wine as emblems of his body and blood)
16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord.

Wednesday (Christ crucified and layed in the tomb)

Wednesday 6 pm (first day of the seven days of unleavened bread feasts begins)

17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:

Thursday (First day Christ's body lay in the tomb)

Friday (Second day Christ's body lay in the tomb)

Saturday (Christ rises on the thrid day on the Sabbath)

Sunday (Just before dawn Christ appears to Mary Magdalene)
 
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Poisonshady313

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The timeline is simple, the days are confusing, since they begin and end at 6 pm.

Numbers 28

16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord.
Tuesday (Passover Preperation Day)

(After 6 pm, it's considered the second day, Christ eats the Passover meal with his disciples, breaks bread and drinks wine as emblems of his body and blood)

17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
Wednesday (Christ crucified and layed in the tomb)

18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:
Thursday (First day Christ's body lay in the tomb)

Friday (Second day Christ's body lay in the tomb)

Saturday (Christ rises on the thrid day on the Sabbath)

Sunday (Just before dawn Christ appears to Mary Magdalene)

It's all plainly written in scripture, you just have to search it out.

Your error is in your misunderstanding of the scripture in Numbers. Partially due to a bad translation.

Let me try it this way:

In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, you shall offer up a Passover offering to the Lord. On the fifteenth day of this month, a festival begins; you shall eat unleavened bread for seven days. On the first day is a holy convocation; you shall not perform any mundane work.


Understand that there is no special meal on the 14th. That is only when the offering is brought. There is only a Passover meal on the fifteenth, the first of a 7 day festival.

So... if Wednesday NIGHT is the day of holy convocation.... the 15th, then Tuesday is NOT a day on which a "passover meal" is eaten. Wednesday BEFORE SUNDOWN is the 14th when "you shall offer up a Passover offering to the Lord"... having the lamb slaughtered.

Nothing would have been done on Tuesday. Nothing at all (except maybe cleaning the house to get rid of leaven)
 

FFH

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Your error is in your misunderstanding of the scripture in Numbers. Partially due to a bad translation.

Let me try it this way:

In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, you shall offer up a Passover offering to the Lord. On the fifteenth day of this month, a festival begins; you shall eat unleavened bread for seven days. On the first day is a holy convocation; you shall not perform any mundane work.


Understand that there is no special meal on the 14th. That is only when the offering is brought. There is only a Passover meal on the fifteenth, the first of a 7 day festival.

So... if Wednesday NIGHT is the day of holy convocation.... the 15th, then Tuesday is NOT a day on which a "passover meal" is eaten. Wednesday BEFORE SUNDOWN is the 14th when "you shall offer up a Passover offering to the Lord"... having the lamb slaughtered.

Nothing would have been done on Tuesday. Nothing at all (except maybe cleaning the house to get rid of leaven)
Maybe you misread what I posted.

I've moved one statement so you can better see that the meal the Christ ate was on the second day of the Passover, which was the first day of the 7 days of the unleavened bread.

Numbers 28

16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord.
Tuesday (Passover Preperation Day)

17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
(After 6 pm, it's considered the second day, Christ eats the Passover meal with his disciples, breaks bread and drinks wine as emblems of his body and blood)
Wednesday (Christ crucified and layed in the tomb)

18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:

Thursday (First day Christ's body lay in the tomb)

Friday (Second day Christ's body lay in the tomb)

Saturday (Christ rises on the thrid day on the Sabbath)

Sunday (Just before dawn Christ appears to Mary Magdalene)

It's all plainly written in scripture, you just have to search it out.
 
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Poisonshady313

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Okay, I see, verse 17 and 18 are the same day.

Actually, if you consider how we look at a day now, from midnight to midnight, verses 16, 17, and 18 are all the same day. The difference is, verse 16 happens before sundown, whereas 17 and 18 happen after sundown.

Which is why if the 15th of Nisan begins Wednesday at sundown, there is no special meal to be had on Tuesday. Tuesday has nothing to do with Passover, except for cleaning the house.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
Okay, I've revised it, this should be correct now. Look at this timeline and tell me why you still think it cannot be correct.

Numbers 28

Tuesday 6 pm Passover Preperation Day begins.
Christ eats the Passover meal with his disciples, breaks bread and drinks wine as emblems of his body and blood)
16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord.

Wednesday (Christ crucified and layed in the tomb)
17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:

Thursday (First day Christ's body lay in the tomb)

Friday (Second day Christ's body lay in the tomb)

Saturday (Christ rises on the thrid day on the Sabbath)

Sunday (Just before dawn Christ appears to Mary Magdalene)

It's all plainly written in scripture, you just have to search it out.
 
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Poisonshady313

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Okay, I've revised it, this should be correct now. Look at this timeline and tell me why you still think it cannot be correct.

Numbers 28

Tuesday 6 pm Passover Preperation Day begins.
Christ eats the Passover meal with his disciples, breaks bread and drinks wine as emblems of his body and blood)
16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord.

Wednesday (Christ crucified and layed in the tomb)
17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:

I've already said it quite clearly, several times. There is no Passover meal on the 14th of Nisan. The day that is a holy convocation.... that is the day when the Passover meal is eaten. If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday before sundown, and sundown on Wednesday marked the beginning of the fifteenth day, then Jesus never ate the Passover meal with his disciples.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
Revised it one more time to make it easier to read.

Numbers 28

Tuesday 6 pm
Passover Preperation Day begins
Christ eats the Passover meal with his disciples, breaks bread and drinks wine as emblems of his body and blood)
16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the Lord.

Wednesday
Christ crucified and layed in the tomb

Thursday
First of the seven days of the unleavened bread meals (Passover)
First day Christ's body lay in the tomb
17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:

Friday
Second day Christ's body lay in the tomb

Saturday
Christ rises on the thrid day on the Sabbath

Sunday
Just before dawn Christ appears to Mary Magdalene
 
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Poisonshady313

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Exodus 12:5-8

5. You shall have a perfect male lamb in its [first] year; you may take it either from the sheep or from the goats.
6. And you shall keep it for inspection until the fourteenth day of this month, and the entire congregation of the community of Israel shall slaughter it in the afternoon.
7. And they shall take [some] of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel, on the houses in which they will eat it.
8. And on this night, they shall eat the flesh, roasted over the fire, and unleavened cakes; with bitter herbs they shall eat it.


On the 14th, they slaughter it in the afternoon. At night, it becomes the 15th, and that's when they eat it.

Which means, if the 15th of Nisan was Wednesday night, the 14th of Nisan was Tuesday night through Wednesday afternoon.

On the 14th, in the afternoon (on Wednesday) is when the animal is slaughtered. A few hours later, on the 15th, it is eaten.

There is no special meal on the 14th. There is no special meal on Tuesday.
 

FFH

Veteran Member
I've already said it quite clearly, several times. There is no Passover meal on the 14th of Nisan. The day that is a holy convocation.... that is the day when the Passover meal is eaten. If Jesus was crucified on Wednesday before sundown, and sundown on Wednesday marked the beginning of the fifteenth day, then Jesus never ate the Passover meal with his disciples.
Okay, I see what you're saying. The first of the seven unleavened bread feasts/meals did not begin until Wednesday.

Christ instituted a meal with his disciples on the Passover preperation day, in which he broke bread and drank wine in referenece to the sacrifice that was to happen the next day, on the first day of Passover, which is the first day of the seven unleavened bread feasts/meals.

The Jews celebrate seven full days of Passover, with the first day being a Passover preperation day.

This year Passover began on April 8th and goes until April 16th.

The question is, did they eat a Passover meal on April 8th, which is the Passover preperation day. Most likely they do not eat a Passover meal on this first Passover preperation day, because they do not believe their Messiah has come yet, they're still preparing for him to come.

Christians, however, break bread and drink wine/water as instituted on that Passover preperation day, when Christ broke bread and drank wine, in reference to his FUTURE sacrifice, which occurred the next day on the first day of Passover, which was the first day of the seven unleavened bread feasts (meals).

It all fits just fine, Christ just instittuted a special meal on the Passover preperation day, which Christians partake of on Sunday.

In the LDS church we partake of Jesus Christ's Sacrament each Sunday.
 
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FFH

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Exodus 12:5-8

5. You shall have a perfect male lamb in its [first] year; you may take it either from the sheep or from the goats.
6. And you shall keep it for inspection until the fourteenth day of this month, and the entire congregation of the community of Israel shall slaughter it in the afternoon.
7. And they shall take [some] of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel, on the houses in which they will eat it.
8. And on this night, they shall eat the flesh, roasted over the fire, and unleavened cakes; with bitter herbs they shall eat it.


On the 14th, they slaughter it in the afternoon. At night, it becomes the 15th, and that's when they eat it.

Which means, if the 15th of Nisan was Wednesday night, the 14th of Nisan was Tuesday night through Wednesday afternoon.

On the 14th, in the afternoon (on Wednesday) is when the animal is slaughtered. A few hours later, on the 15th, it is eaten.

There is no special meal on the 14th. There is no special meal on Tuesday.
Right, exactly, I'm with you.

The Jewish lambs that were slain, throughout the years, on Wednesday at noon, were a forshadow of Jesus Christ's crucifixion.

Jesus Christ was the Lamb who was slain (crucified) on the first day of Passover, from 9 am until 3 pm.

Jesus Christ was crucified on the first day of Passover, which was Wednesday.

Whether there was a Passover meal on Tuesday night makes no difference. I'll just scratch any reference to a Passover meal on Tuesday and just put Jesus Christ instituted his Sacraments (bread and wine) in it's stead.
 
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FFH

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No, wait, I had it right the first time.

Matthew 26: 17
Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?
My timeline is right, I'm leaving it the way it is.

Jesus Christ ate the first Passover meal, that's clearly stated in Matthew 26: 17
 
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