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But HaShem gave us that evil inclination when we were created, our Yetzer RaEnhancedSpirit said:Evil is not a part of the original creation but a result of the abuse of the gift of free will.
I don't see where your getting Satan from Daniel 10:13-20...based on the rest of the text it looks like he's talking about persiamay said:Daniel 10:13, 20 discloses that Satan has had demonic princes over principal kingdoms of the earth
jewscout said:I don't see where your getting Satan from Daniel 10:13-20...based on the rest of the text it looks like he's talking about persia
what does any of this have to do w/ the book of Danielmay said:
because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places(ephesians6;12)
Here we have a fascinating glimpse of the spirit realm. We see that spirit creaturesgood and badare very much involved in world affairs
jewscout said:what does any of this have to do w/ the book of Daniel
how can satan possibly fight G-d? If G-d is an infinite omnipotent being and the only being that can be qualified as a deity, then to say that a being can oppose Him is to say that G-d has limits, thus He is finite. Does your g-d have limits may?may said:
because satan always fights against Jehovah and jesus , and in the book of daniel jesus is the angel called michael .the book of daniel is also a prophetic bookabout world rulership
well Dayv, when your debating about scripture i think it's only appropriate to quote from scripture as well as commentators and experts on these scriptures. It's like asking someone to debate or discuss the Atlantic Slave trade but without using any primary, secondary, or tertiary source materials or the opinion of an historian who is an expert and well versed in said field.Dayv said:I personally don't understand how all of you bible-goers can use passages from the bible as any kind of proof. I also have often wondered if there are many of you that have a real opinion or if all you can actually do is recite scripture. These books were written by men, and men, in general, are fools, too easily prone to twisting things as they see fit or just outright creating tales. The argument I so often hear to this comment is "but they were divinely inspired," but how do you know that? Because you're preist, pasture, or rabbi says so? Let's hear a real opinion from you people, analyze you're religion, don't just repeat bible verses, i'm so sick of that. Even if your religion is the 'right one', odds are that some of it at least is incorrect, so you can't just take everything verbatum.