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Jesus's second coming

herushura

herushura

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eselam said:
lets just keep the loving to a minimum ok.:cool:

the holy spirit is gabriel right?
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"book of enoch" The archangel Gabriel appeared to Nir, and said to him, "Do not think that your wife Sopanim has died because of your error, but this child, which is to be born of her is a righteous fruit, and one whom I shall receive into paradise, so that you will not be the father of a gift of God."

It happened when the child had completed 40 days in Nir's tent, The Lord said to the archangel Gabriel, "Go down onto the earth to Nir the priest, and take the child Melchizedek, who is with him. Place him in the paradise of Edem

In the Book of Enoch - Melchi-zedek is the Christ Figure - he is called son of god/man. This happened just after the Flood. Melchi-Zedek means "The King of Righteousness"

In the dead-sea-scrolls text Melchizedek is seen as a divine being and Hebrew titles as elohim are applied to him. According to this text Melchizedek will proclaim the "Day of Atonement" and he will atone for the people who are predestined to him. He also will judge the peoples. Here is called Elohim.

Thus identifying how Jesus became plagiarized by falsely identifing him with old-tests. new-test plagiarized from the greek-persian-hebrew-norse myths.

Who is real Christ

Isaiah 45:1
"This is what the LORD says to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armor, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shut:

Isaiah clearly states that Cyrus is the Anointed King and Savior and the figure who is said to be coming is cyrus(not jesus). - Why - because he Saved Israel from babylon, without cyrus, judaism might not of existed

In Isaiah - Cyrus is clearly called "Cyrus the Christ" The Anti-christ (whore of babylon-several headed dragon in revs and Satan-Lucifer is infact "Nebuchadnezzar")

why does revelations talk about the "fall of babylon" when it already happened 600 years ago - because its a retold account.
thus the Christ figure in revaltions is infact "Cyrus the Great"

which say in Isaiah and revs. in fact the word Cyrus or "Kuros" is infact the
same word as "khris-to(s)" The(to) Anointed(khris) - eg we dont pronounce T in christmas.
Cyrus came from the east to deliver the Jews

egyptian name Cyrus is "Ku-ra-as", means "The Spirit(ku) and Son(sa) of God(ra)
 
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S-word

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herushura said:
"book of enoch" The archangel Gabriel appeared to Nir, and said to him, "Do not think that your wife Sopanim has died because of your error, but this child, which is to be born of her is a righteous fruit, and one whom I shall receive into paradise, so that you will not be the father of a gift of God."
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You do realise of course, that other manuscripts of the second Book of Enoch, state that it was Michael who appeared to Nir the brother of Noah.
It is at the end of the second Book of Enoch, which relates to Enoch's ascention into the eighth eternal heaven, that the story about an unknown brother "Nir" has been added. The story of the birth of Nir which parallels the miraculous birth of Noah would seem to have been
a later addition.
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Spiritone

Spiritone

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"As you see me leave, so shall I be seen to return." He "rose up" as a brilliant light--into another dimension, is my best guess. If so, then he would return by appearing from that dimension first as a bright light and then himself. He would be sure to appear in the midst of witnesses, but where? Could be anywhere, depending on where would be the most effective. In the middle of a battle in Iraq would be a good place, don't you think?
 
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san miguel

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i wonder if Jesus is constantly reincarnated on earth in order to spread as much love, peace, and worship to God as possible. Some times he makes a bigger impact on the world in one life , than others. Wheter Jesus's soul knows who he is each life or not is a mystery, but after looking at this world in its present state, i'm not sure how much dirtier or more sinful it could get before God fixes it with his son once and for all
 
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emiliano

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Beaudreaux said:
Not going to happen. Jesus himself was under the impression that the second coming would happen within 20 or so years after his death (Mark 9:1). Didn't happen then. Not going to happen now.
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False, He said that the days of his returned will like the days in Noah's day.
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:5 (KJV)
We are still here because God longsuffering toward His creation and the fact that human imperfect as they are, their thoughts are not evil continually even the godless lives by God's Moral Law at time.
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1 Peter 3:20 (KJV)
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
san miguel said:
i wonder if Jesus is constantly reincarnated on earth in order to spread as much love, peace, and worship to God as possible. Some times he makes a bigger impact on the world in one life , than others. Wheter Jesus's soul knows who he is each life or not is a mystery, but after looking at this world in its present state, i'm not sure how much dirtier or more sinful it could get before God fixes it with his son once and for all
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This isn't necessary because he has the Paraclete to do this for Him.

I don't believe that Jesus is ever unaware of His God consciousness.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
emiliano said:
False, He said that the days of his returned will like the days in Noah's day.
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:5 (KJV)
We are still here because God longsuffering toward His creation and the fact that human imperfect as they are, their thoughts are not evil continually even the godless lives by God's Moral Law at time.
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1 Peter 3:20 (KJV)
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I think Jesus is pointing out that people were unsuspecting and doing the ordinary things that people do:

Mat 24:38 For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

It would seem just for God to wait until the world deserved to be destroyed. However this may be somewhat different in that there are a large number of obediant people. The scenario is the same: that God extricates His people (by the rapture) before He destroys the world.
 
logician

logician

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emiliano said:
We do, we are counted by the billions
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Sorry, the bandwagon theory doesn't cut any ice with me. Millions of people have committed the worst atrocites imaginable believing in illogical edicts from some dictatorial leader. Numbers didn't make them right.
 
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emiliano

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Muffled said:
I think Jesus is pointing out that people were unsuspecting and doing the ordinary things that people do:

Mat 24:38 For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39 and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

It would seem just for God to wait until the world deserved to be destroyed. However this may be somewhat different in that there are a large number of obediant people. The scenario is the same: that God extricates His people (by the rapture) before He destroys the world.
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Good post, it is interesting and there are more to be discovered. You wrote: "However this may be somewhat different in that there are a large number of obedient people" the sign is that the obedient people’s numbers are getting smaller indicating that we are heading in the direction of Noah’s generation, the Lord also points out that in Noah day people were "eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage" this generation is just starting, their desire seem to be to be constantly entertained and are addicted to all sort of make me happy substances, but we are nowhere near the point at which Noah's generation was. The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Gen 6:11-12 (KJV) God looks upon the earth and continue in his longsuffering of us all.
Although the Lord said that nobody know the day we are told to be watchful in the parable of the fig tree in Mark13:28-30
 
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emiliano

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logician said:
Sorry, the bandwagon theory doesn't cut any ice with me. Millions of people have committed the worst atrocites imaginable believing in illogical edicts from some dictatorial leader. Numbers didn't make them right.
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I don't know if you can get this, I just responded to your quip “Whoever heard of a prophecy that would take 2k+ years to come to fruition?” I am not trying to convert you, I don’t even understand your reasons for participating in a religious debate, as far I know from scripture you don’t have to worry about this, you won’t be there.
The ungodly [are] not so, But [are] like the chaff which the wind drives away.
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. (Psalm:4-5)
 
logician

logician

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emiliano said:
I don't know if you can get this, I just responded to your quip “Whoever heard of a prophecy that would take 2k+ years to come to fruition?” I am not trying to convert you, I don’t even understand your reasons for participating in a religious debate, as far I know from scripture you don’t have to worry about this, you won’t be there.
The ungodly [are] not so, But [are] like the chaff which the wind drives away.
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. (Psalm:4-5)
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So since only Christians believe in hell, they are the only ones going there?
 
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emiliano

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san miguel said:
i wonder if Jesus is constantly reincarnated on earth in order to spread as much love, peace, and worship to God as possible. Some times he makes a bigger impact on the world in one life , than others. Wheter Jesus's soul knows who he is each life or not is a mystery, but after looking at this world in its present state, i'm not sure how much dirtier or more sinful it could get before God fixes it with his son once and for all
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I don't think that He does, I think that what makes it appear as it were is that we get to know people that are very Chris-like in our generation, He left us commands that we all strive after these characteristics, mainly to love God above all things and our brethrens as our selves.
 
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S-word

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Muffled said:
S-word said:
Muffled said:
In the first instance which is the only one that I looked at, yes.

I know what spirit I am of, and the truth. You do not have the truth even though you have convinced yourself that you do. Everyone thinks they have the truth in their own mind but I do not have my own mind but I have the mind of God. As I said before, I will not reveal this truth to you. You will either have to find it for yourself or ask God to guide you to it.
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Genesis 11: 31-32; After leaving the city of Ur,'Terah' the Father of Abraham had settled in Haran where he died at the age of 205, this is the truth as recorded in God's word. If any spirit tries to convince you otherwise, it is a disgusting lying spirit.
After Terah was 70 years old he became the Father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

Genesis 12: 4; When Abram was 75, years old he started out from Haran, as the Lord had told him to do and Lot went with him. Abram took his wife Sarah (His half sister, both having been sired by Terah, but born from different mothers. See Genesis 20: 12.) his nephew Lot, and all the wealth and all the slaves they had acquired in Haran, and they started out (When Abram was 75 years old) for the land of Canaan.

Here is the truth as recorded in God's word, and again, if any lying spirit attempts to twist this truth, it is an abhorance to god.

If Abram left Haran after his Father died, as stated by Stephen, a newly converted Greek speaking Jew, then Terah would had to have been 130 Years old when he sired Abram, and at least ten years older when he sired Sarah and their younger surviving brother Nahor. It was not after Terah turned Eighty that he sired Abram, Nahor and Haran, but after he turned Seventy.

I have the truth my dear friend, and if you deny what is written here is the truth, then you prove to all, that the spirit that is leading you, has blinded you to the truth as revealed in God's word.

You may keep that which you believe to be truth and refuse to reveal that falsehood, I have no desire to listen to lies, nor would I allow your deceptive god to lead me into that pit into which he is destined to cast and bound in chains of darkness.
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BruceDLimber

BruceDLimber

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Greetings! :)

logician said:
Whoever heard of a prophecy that would take 2k+ years to come to fruition?
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The Baha'is--to name one group--tend to be well aware of a prophecy in the Jewish scriptures (Daniel) that speaks of a time 2,300 years into the future!

IOV this prophecy was fulfilled just over a century and a half ago.

You can see the details, if you like, at:

www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled

Best regards! :)

bruce
 
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challupa

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If Jesus came back as a human, how would you know? Especially if this time he was a she!!! Would you accept a woman?
 
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